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Re: [openpgp] OpenPGP Web Key Directory I-D

Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> Sat, 10 November 2018 10:30 UTC

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Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 04:30:30 -0600
From: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
To: Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>, openpgp@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [openpgp] OpenPGP Web Key Directory I-D
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On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 11:13:08AM +0100, Werner Koch wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 06:00, kaduk@mit.edu said:
> 
> > I feel some obligation to push back on this -- if there is no willingness
> > to deviate from the deployed implementation, why not just document the
> > existing implementation behavior as part of the implementation's
> 
> Simply because there are deployed services which required quite some
> in-person discussion.  Telling them that they need to replace it by
> something new is not a convincing argeument for running a web key
> directory.
> 
> Sure over time it can eventually be removed.

Thanks for the clarification -- I probably misread the context in which the
original message was given.

-Ben

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