Re: [openpgp] saltpack on OpenPGP message format problems
Rick van Rein <rick@openfortress.nl> Wed, 02 March 2016 07:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [openpgp] saltpack on OpenPGP message format problems
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Hello, Phillip wrote: > I think one point that has been massively overlooked by traditional > crypto applications is the need to store private keys securely. In > particular, it should be possible to fix private keys to a device such > that the key can be used on that device but it is not possible to > remove the key from the device and install it on another device > without 'heroic' efforts (e.g. uncapping the CPU and reading it with a > scanning electron microscope). You seem to be talking of PKCS #11. It's possible to use that under OpenPGP but I've found the GnuPG implementation made it difficult. Unlike the PGP card, which is more specific to the OpenPGP purpose, this is a general standard for which many implementations exist in USB sticks, ranging up to HSMs and even software low-end solutions. FWIW, I had no problem implementing PKCS #11 for OpenPGP, https://github.com/arpa2/tlspool/blob/master/tool/pgp11_genkey.c This is only key generation (including self-signing) which is what I needed for this project (which moves TLS to a daemon that uses PKCS #11) but other things can also easily be moved to OpenPGP implementations. Cheers, -Rick
- [openpgp] saltpack on OpenPGP message format prob… ianG
- Re: [openpgp] saltpack on OpenPGP message format … Neal H. Walfield
- Re: [openpgp] saltpack on OpenPGP message format … Stephen Paul Weber
- Re: [openpgp] saltpack on OpenPGP message format … Neal H. Walfield
- Re: [openpgp] saltpack on OpenPGP message format … Stephen Paul Weber
- Re: [openpgp] saltpack on OpenPGP message format … Neal H. Walfield
- Re: [openpgp] saltpack on OpenPGP message format … Vincent Breitmoser
- Re: [openpgp] saltpack on OpenPGP message format … Neal H. Walfield
- Re: [openpgp] saltpack on OpenPGP message format … Vincent Breitmoser
- Re: [openpgp] saltpack on OpenPGP message format … Peter Gutmann
- Re: [openpgp] saltpack on OpenPGP message format … Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] saltpack on OpenPGP message format … Ben Laurie
- Re: [openpgp] saltpack on OpenPGP message format … Peter Gutmann
- Re: [openpgp] saltpack on OpenPGP message format … Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] saltpack on OpenPGP message format … Derek Atkins
- Re: [openpgp] saltpack on OpenPGP message format … ianG
- Re: [openpgp] saltpack on OpenPGP message format … Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [openpgp] saltpack on OpenPGP message format … Rick van Rein