Re: [openpgp] Requesting the editor to step down
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sun, 19 April 2020 22:33 UTC
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Subject: Re: [openpgp] Requesting the editor to step down
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Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote: Paul> On Fri, 17 Apr 2020, Ronald Tse wrote: >> It is hardly Werner’s fault that consensus is difficult to come by in >> this group. Given that the OpenPGP Working Group has “already” been >> disbanded Paul> I'm also confused what that means for the bis draft. If there is no Paul> working group, then anyone can submit any kind of draft proposal as Paul> a bis document. But there is no WG, so I don't think the WG can Paul> decide to replace anyone on any draft? You are certainly right: without a WG, whomever wants to edit a document can do so. Paul> I'm not sure though a "bis" document could replace an existing Paul> standard without a WG behind it? It would seem odd for an AD Paul> sponsored document to replace a WG document ? It would violate the rules for an ISE to replace an document that had IETF Consensus. An AD sponsored document does get IETF Consensus, so yes, it can "bis" a now-disbanded WG document. It is really the only way to do that other than spinning up a WG, or perhaps, adopting the document somewhere else. (SAAG?..) Paul> As for the editing situation. It is possible that it would be Paul> beneficial for an editor to be added to the document for improved Paul> response time to various edits of the document. Maybe even someone Paul> less involved in openpgp so they can keep their role as much Paul> administrative as possible without technical bias? I strongly agree: more authors produce better documents, up to some n^2 Mythical Man Month limitation. Three people working together is ideal in my opinion. I also think that we disband WGs *WAY TOO SOON*, and it's one of the major reasons we don't have more Internet Standards. -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
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- Re: [openpgp] Requesting the editor to step down Brian G. Peterson
- Re: [openpgp] Requesting the editor to step down Paul Wouters
- Re: [openpgp] Requesting the editor to step down Michael Richardson
- Re: [openpgp] Requesting the editor to step down Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] Requesting the editor to step down Wiktor Kwapisiewicz
- Re: [openpgp] Requesting the editor to step down Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] Requesting the editor to step down Michael Richardson
- Re: [openpgp] Requesting the editor to step down Ronald Tse
- Re: [openpgp] Requesting the editor to step down Justus Winter
- Re: [openpgp] Requesting the editor to step down Justus Winter
- Re: [openpgp] Requesting the editor to step down Nickolay Olshevsky
- Re: [openpgp] Requesting the editor to step down Ronald Tse
- Re: [openpgp] Requesting the editor to step down Werner Koch
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