Re: [openpgp] Combining signature with signer's public key
Kai Engert <kaie@kuix.de> Fri, 11 December 2020 09:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: [openpgp] Combining signature with signer's public key
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On 11.12.20 09:31, holger krekel wrote: > the reason several e-mail app implementors decided for a header > in the discussions leading up to the Autocrypt spec in 2017 > was precisely to not confuse users with weird attachments. related FAQ: > https://autocrypt.org/faq.html#why-are-you-using-headers-rather-than-attached-keys > > What do you find problematic about it? It's been used in several mail > apps (including Thunderbird/Enigmail up until TB78 in August 2020) and > did not cause any UX issues or complaints. I'd kindly ask you to consider > not inventing another method now without strong reason. The amount of data that can be transported in an email header is limited. For the simple keys that can be generated inside Thunderbird (primary key, single subkey for encryption, single used ID), using the Autocrypt header could work. However: - we also allow users to use their complex keys with Thunderbird, which may contain multiple user IDs, and contain many certifications, causing the key to be very big The Autocrypt header seems like an incomplete key distribution mechanism for complex keys. - what Thunderbird sends in PGP/MIME's application/gpg-keys attachment isn't limited to the sender's public key. It will also include revocation statements, for revoked keys matching the sender's email address. Kai
- [openpgp] Combining signature with signer's publi… Kai Engert
- Re: [openpgp] Combining signature with signer's p… vedaal
- Re: [openpgp] Combining signature with signer's p… brian m. carlson
- Re: [openpgp] Combining signature with signer's p… Wiktor Kwapisiewicz
- Re: [openpgp] Combining signature with signer's p… Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] Combining signature with signer's p… holger krekel
- Re: [openpgp] Combining signature with signer's p… Neal H. Walfield
- Re: [openpgp] Combining signature with signer's p… Neal H. Walfield
- Re: [openpgp] Combining signature with signer's p… Hanno Böck
- Re: [openpgp] Combining signature with signer's p… Wiktor Kwapisiewicz
- Re: [openpgp] Combining signature with signer's p… Kai Engert
- Re: [openpgp] Combining signature with signer's p… Wiktor Kwapisiewicz
- Re: [openpgp] Combining signature with signer's p… Neal H. Walfield
- Re: [openpgp] Combining signature with signer's p… Kai Engert
- Re: [openpgp] Combining signature with signer's p… Neal H. Walfield
- [openpgp] Put Signature in an Email's Header Neal H. Walfield
- Re: [openpgp] Put Signature in an Email's Header Kai Engert
- [openpgp] key distribution by email strategy Kai Engert
- Re: [openpgp] key distribution by email strategy Andrew Gallagher
- Re: [openpgp] key distribution by email strategy Kai Engert
- Re: [openpgp] Put Signature in an Email's Header Bart Butler
- Re: [openpgp] key distribution by email strategy Heiko Schaefer
- Re: [openpgp] key distribution by email strategy Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] key distribution by email strategy Steffen Nurpmeso
- Re: [openpgp] key distribution by email strategy Vincent Breitmoser
- Re: [openpgp] key distribution by email strategy Steffen Nurpmeso
- Re: [openpgp] key distribution by email strategy John Scott
- Re: [openpgp] key distribution by email strategy Steffen Nurpmeso
- Re: [openpgp] Put Signature in an Email's Header Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [openpgp] Put Signature in an Email's Header Benjamin Kaduk