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Re: [openpgp] Deriving an OpenPGP secret key from a human readable seed

Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Sat, 19 October 2019 03:40 UTC

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From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 23:40:03 -0400
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Subject: Re: [openpgp] Deriving an OpenPGP secret key from a human readable seed
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Someone just said we need a spec. Here is a spec:
https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-hallambaker-mesh-udf-07.txt

It is in the new format which is intended to be read as HTML. Until the
tools catch up, you can read it here:
http://mathmesh.com/Documents/draft-hallambaker-mesh-udf.html

The draft does not specify the value of e which it should but I am pretty
sure we have standardized on 65537. I see no reference to p being greater
than q and it is a mystery to me why we would care when the RSA parameters
are the modulus and the private exponent d. Knowledge of p and q is only
used to determine d, they are not req

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