Re: [openpgp] Key Superseded signature type
"Neal H. Walfield" <neal@walfield.org> Sun, 04 December 2022 12:21 UTC
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Subject: Re: [openpgp] Key Superseded signature type
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On Sat, 03 Dec 2022 17:00:13 +0100, Aron Wussler wrote: > > As I commented in the MR, I wonder if a new Reason for Revocation > > type, `Key is superseded by`, which takes a fingerprint and a human > > readable string, would be better than a new signature type. > > I think this approach does not play well with legacy implementations, as they would consider the key revoked. That's a good point. Then perhaps 'Key is superseded' plus a subpacket or notation to indicate the new key would be better. Note 'Key is superseded' is a type of soft revocation: If a key has been revoked because of a compromise, all signatures created by that key are suspect. However, if it was merely superseded or retired, old signatures are still valid. Neal
- [openpgp] Key Superseded signature type Aron Wussler
- Re: [openpgp] Key Superseded signature type Neal H. Walfield
- Re: [openpgp] Key Superseded signature type Aron Wussler
- Re: [openpgp] Key Superseded signature type Neal H. Walfield
- Re: [openpgp] Key Superseded signature type Aron Wussler