Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizing User Attributes
Leo Gaspard <ietf@leo.gaspard.ninja> Sat, 30 June 2018 12:43 UTC
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From: Leo Gaspard <ietf@leo.gaspard.ninja>
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Subject: Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizing User Attributes
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On 06/30/2018 02:02 AM, Derek Atkins wrote: > Leo Gaspard <ietf=40leo.gaspard.ninja@dmarc.ietf.org> writes: > >> Well, User IDs are not easier to work with than User Attributes. The >> only difference is that User IDs have been defined to be free-form >> UTF-8, while the only User Attribute that has been defined (up to now) >> is the picture type. And thus the only User Attribute that's easy to >> work with is the picture User Attribute… which sounds logical. >> >> OTOH, supposing my idea was introduced, then the additionally-defined >> User Attributes would become mandatorily supported in v5 keys (among >> other reasons because there would no longer be any User ID), and there >> would be a free-form tag=value type (with both tag and value being UTF-8). > > May I point you to the (expired) document, > draft-atkins-openpgp-device-certificates which started down the road of > adding additional Attribute packets. > > Would something like that help? Indeed, I hadn't seen this! This is adding a User Attribute subpacket type for a reason completely different from the reason I have, and even going a bit in opposition to the movement I was trying to set (which would have led to the definition of a “Device ID” attribute subpacket type that wouldn't “by convention, [include] a mail name-addr”, because that possibly makes no sense, and if it does it can be replicated with “Device ID” + “email” attribute subpackets). But the idea of adding User Attributes that are actually readable by humans is the same, so that they can be easily understood by humans even when using implementations that can't fully handle them (only the bare minimum of displaying UTF-8) :)
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Leo Gaspard
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Leo Gaspard
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Wyllys Ingersoll
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Leo Gaspard
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Wiktor Kwapisiewicz
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Leo Gaspard
- [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizing Us… Marcus Brinkmann
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Leo Gaspard
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Leo Gaspard
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Marcus Brinkmann
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Wiktor Kwapisiewicz
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Leo Gaspard
- Re: [openpgp] Scoped trust (signatures) Vincent Breitmoser
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Wiktor Kwapisiewicz
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Wiktor Kwapisiewicz
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Jon Callas
- [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizing Us… Leo Gaspard
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Leo Gaspard
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Jon Callas
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Wiktor Kwapisiewicz
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Wiktor Kwapisiewicz
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Leo Gaspard
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Leo Gaspard
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Derek Atkins
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Leo Gaspard
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Leo Gaspard
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Bill Frantz
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Jon Callas
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Wiktor Kwapisiewicz
- [openpgp] Scoped trust (signatures) Leo Gaspard
- Re: [openpgp] Scoped trust (signatures) Neal H. Walfield
- [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizing Us… Leo Gaspard
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Vincent Breitmoser
- Re: [openpgp] Overhauling User IDs / Standardizin… Leo Gaspard
- Re: [openpgp] Scoped trust (signatures) Jon Callas
- Re: [openpgp] Scoped trust (signatures) Jon Callas
- Re: [openpgp] Scoped trust (signatures) Leo Gaspard
- Re: [openpgp] Scoped trust (signatures) Vincent Breitmoser
- Re: [openpgp] Scoped trust (signatures) Neal H. Walfield
- Re: [openpgp] Scoped trust (signatures) Jon Callas
- Re: [openpgp] Scoped trust (signatures) Jon Callas
- Re: [openpgp] Scoped trust (signatures) Christian Huitema