Re: [openpgp] rechartering topics poll results...

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Thu, 26 October 2023 14:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [openpgp] rechartering topics poll results...
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Hiya,

Before we try send some new charter text to the IESG for
approval, it'd be great to get a few more positive acks
that the plan below is ok with folks,

Thanks,
S.

On 21/10/2023 13:53, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Thanks to those who took the time to take part in our poll
> to try figure out how to prioritise the list of topics that
> you'd like to see the WG tackle in future.
> 
> dkg and I had a call to discuss the results [1] of our poll
> for initial topics, to try turn those results into milestones
> for our updated WG charter. [2]
> 
> It looks to us like the poll respondents may well have picked
> an initial 4 that might make sense for the WG so we'd like to
> check that now. Recall that our plan is to add from the other
> topics mentioned in the charter as milestones are completed or
> parked, so we're not ruling things out here, we're just saying
> which topics we'll tackle first.
> 
> We think our poll results could map to these initial milestones:
> 
> "
>     - November 2023 - call for adoption of drafts related to
>       post quantum cryptography to produce a proposed standard
>       RFC
>     - January 2024 - call for adoption of drafts related to
>       superseded keys to produce a proposed standard RFC
>     - January 2024 - call for adoption of drafts related to
>       persistent symmetric keys to produce a proposed standard
>       RFC
>     - March 2024 - call for adoption of drafts related to
>       WKD and/or HKP to produce a proposed standard RFC
> "
> 
> The above basically stages the top 4 from the poll but
> with a bit of a nod to recent list discussion related to
> WKD/HKP. (On that last, if we plan a call for adoption in
> 6 months time, we've plenty of time to think more.)
> 
> That looks to the chairs like it may be tractable set of
> topics to try address in a reasonable time-frame so we'd
> like to get your feedback on that as an outcome by the
> 27th of October. If we think your feedback is that the
> above has captured the rough consensus of the WG then
> we'll add those milestones to the charter text [1] and
> send that to our AD asking that the IESG process
> re-chartering the WG on that basis. Positive feedback
> that this is an ok set of initial milestones would be
> welcome. (If the overall WG feedback goes in some other
> direction we'll need to go into a chair-huddle again to
> see what to try next;-)
> 
> Three other things to note:
> 
> 1) these milestones are for calls for adoption - that
> gives people interested in these topics time to write
> and/or polish drafts before the WG discusses adoption
> so we do not have to only consider the current set of
> drafts related to each topic
> 
> 2) in the case of PQC we can probably start discussion
> right now, as it's very clear the WG want to do work
> there - watch for a separate mail on the agenda for our
> upcoming Prague meeting
> 
> 3) it could be that this initial set of topics might
> lead to a situation where the overall set of editors
> of WG documents places too much work on a set of people
> with one sponsor, which'd be possibly unfair on those
> people. So, as the WG adopt drafts on different topics,
> the chairs may sometimes have to seek out new editors
> if we run into that situation. (That's actually always
> the official IETF process but changing editors at the
> time of adoption doesn't happen that much, so we thought
> it worth calling out this potential issue.)
> 
> Cheers,
> dkg & Stephen.
> 
> [1]
> https://civs1.civs.us/cgi-bin/results.pl?num_winners=4&id=E_febc2b2122c5843d&rkey=&algorithm=beatpath
> [2] https://gitlab.com/openpgp-wg/openpgp-wg-admin/-/blob/main/charter.md
> 
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