Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft
Aron Wussler <aron@wussler.it> Tue, 21 February 2023 09:37 UTC
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Subject: Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft
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Hi, > Ok, so given the proponents are now happy with this merge > request can other people please take a look and express an > opinion on the list as to whether we should make these > changes now. I support this change. I reviewed PR !242 yesterday evening and really like the simplification in the long run. We definitely need to move very fast to fit in the timeline, but we have now the chance to bundle the breaking changes and start with a clean, fresh implementation of 25519 and 448. Even though I've already implemented 448 in go-crypto/gopenpgp, I believe this change will make it more sustainable in the future. Cheers, Aron -- Aron Wussler Sent with ProtonMail, OpenPGP key 0x7E6761563EFE3930 ------- Original Message ------- On Monday, February 20th, 2023 at 20:17, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote: > Hiya, > > On 20/02/2023 19:01, Daniel Huigens wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > After discussing with Justus, dkg and Stephen, I've added the Curve25519 > > OIDs back into !242, but marked as legacy (as Justus did in !240). > > That way, they can still be referenced easily, but we still make it > > clear that the new algorithm IDs are preferable. This doesn't simplify > > the spec as much as before, but it's also a less radical change, and it > > will still simplify greenfield implementations a lot. In a way, I think > > it's a good compromise between the two MRs. And I believe that it now > > represents the option we'd both be most happy with :) > > > Ok, so given the proponents are now happy with this merge > request can other people please take a look and express an > opinion on the list as to whether we should make these > changes now. > > Please do so by the end of Wednesday if you can. > > Silence on the list I guess has to mean not making these > changes. > > Thanks, > Stephen. > > > Best, > > Daniel > > > > ------- Original Message ------- > > On Friday, February 17th, 2023 at 23:26, Stephen Farrell wrote: > > > > > Hiya, > > > > > On 17/02/2023 22:19, Daniel Huigens wrote: > > > > > > I support this change. > > > > > Noted. > > > > > > I don't want to muddy the waters too much, but I've also created !242 > > > > as an alternative to this, which defines new algorithm IDs for Ed25519, > > > > Ed448, X25519, and X448. > > > > > Hmm. Can you and Justus not get together please and kill one > > > of those MRs? Muddy waters may be great for music, but less > > > so for getting the last few things finally done where the WG > > > has previously failed to get things over the line. > > > > > S. > > _______________________________________________ > openpgp mailing list > openpgp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/openpgp
- [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Peter Gutmann
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Peter Gutmann
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Daniel Huigens
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Peter Gutmann
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Paul Wouters
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Peter Gutmann
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Wiktor Kwapisiewicz
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Peter Gutmann
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Paul Wouters
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Paul Wouters
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Daniel Huigens
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Wiktor Kwapisiewicz
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Justus Winter
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Justus Winter
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Daniel Huigens
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Peter Gutmann
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Daniel Huigens
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Wiktor Kwapisiewicz
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Aron Wussler
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Paul Schaub
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Heiko Schäfer
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft David Runge
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Jonathan McDowell
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Vincent Breitmoser
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Paul Wouters
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Justus Winter