Re: [openpgp] who creates old-rfc registries?

Ángel <angel@16bits.net> Mon, 01 March 2021 02:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [openpgp] who creates old-rfc registries?
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> > Procedural question: is it the right thing for a RFC to state that it "creates a
> > new registry" for those registries which were actually created by an older RFC
> > it is obsoleting?
> 
> If you're talking about the Notation Flags registry, it doesn't
> currently exist at IANA:
> 
>     https://www.iana.org/assignments/pgp-parameters/pgp-parameters.xhtml
> 
> So yes, while the initial values that populate it came from the older,
> obsoleted RFC, this RFC *is* the one that is creating the registry.

No. I'm talking about every section but the "Signature Notation Data Subpacket Notation Flags" :-)
The other sections of §10 were already created by 4880.


It's probably explained somewhere, although I don't find the exact answer.

I see however that 
https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8126.html#section-8 mentions IANA
registration info should be updated to the new RFC, so I guess the
answer is that instead of "This specification creates a registry" they
should all be "This specification becomes the reference for registry…"
or something along that line.


I have opened https://gitlab.com/openpgp-wg/rfc4880bis/-/issues/23 to track this.


Best regards