Re: [openpgp] Manifesto - who is the new OpenPGP for?

ianG <iang@iang.org> Wed, 25 March 2015 23:33 UTC

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On 25/03/2015 08:25 am, Werner Koch wrote:
> Hi!
>
> FWIW: When I kicked of this thread I was not thinking of a "new OpenPGP"
> but of long planned extensions and updates to an existing protocol.


Good point.

> Throwing everything over board and start from scratch should not be done
> under the label of OpenPGP; there are already a couple of other projects
> working on re-doing everything from scratch.


What do people think?  I certainly wouldn't stand in the way of a group 
that wanted to do that.

But OpenPGP is more than an RFC - it's a shared vision, community, and a 
history.

We've learnt a lot since 1992.  If, in the act of tapping that learning, 
we tell the experience to go away and think up another name, I fear 
that's not productive, not efficient.



iang