Re: [openpgp] [internet-drafts@ietf.org] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-openpgp-rfc4880bis-10.txt

"Neal H. Walfield" <neal@walfield.org> Wed, 02 September 2020 20:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: [openpgp] [internet-drafts@ietf.org] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-openpgp-rfc4880bis-10.txt
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Hi Derek,

On Wed, 02 Sep 2020 20:59:34 +0200,
Derek Atkins wrote:
> Having said that, there was certainly discussion about the "revert to 4880
> requirement for a user id packet" change.  I don't recall the other
> topic.

As of draft 9 (published 9 March 2020) the User ID packet was still optional.
In draft 10 (published 31 August 2020) that change was reverted.

  https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-openpgp-rfc4880bis-09#section-11.1
  https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-openpgp-rfc4880bis-10#section-11.1

It was reverted specifically by this commit:

  Revert to the RFC4880 requirement of having a User ID.

  With the below referenced patch Derek Atkins integrated his
  "Device-Certificate Draft" to allow the use of a stripped down OpenPGP
  key by space constrained devices.  The draft was never meant as a
  general lifting of requirements which were intentionally introduced
  when formalizing the old PGP 2 formats as OpenPGP.  This patch
  clarifies this.

  https://gitlab.com/openpgp-wg/rfc4880bis/-/commit/6fd718d39fc8db20e4731350899db1b7c48c721e

which was made on 12 March 2020.

Between January 25, 2020 and March 12, 2020, there was one mail to
this mailing list, which was a message from DKG about the stateless
openpgp cli.  I reviewed the archives from the past year, but I
couldn't find this discussed.  Did I miss something?

  https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/openpgp/?

FWIW, my position and, as I understand it, Justus' and Vincent's is
that User IDs ought to be optional.  In fact, Hagrid is built around
that assumption, and Sequoia explicitly supports it.

Thanks,

Neal