Re: [openpgp] email death certificates
Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz> Sat, 24 August 2019 12:46 UTC
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From: Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz>
To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, "openpgp@ietf.org" <openpgp@ietf.org>
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Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 12:46:28 +0000
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Subject: Re: [openpgp] email death certificates
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Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> writes: >25+ years ago I worked on X.400 mail. The X.400 specs had a recipient >deceased non-delivery notification IIRC This is what an RFC822 address looks like in a certificate: rfc822Name IA5String This is what an X.400 address looks like in a certificate: ITU-Braindamge ::= SEQUENCE { built-in-standard-attributes SEQUENCE { country-name [ APPLICATION 1 ] CHOICE { x121-dcc-code NumericString, iso-3166-alpha2-code PrintableString }, administration-domain-name [ APPLICATION 2 ] CHOICE { numeric NumericString, printable PrintableString }, network-address [ 0 ] NumericString OPTIONAL, terminal-identifier [ 1 ] PrintableString OPTIONAL, private-domain-name [ 2 ] CHOICE { numeric NumericString, printable PrintableString } OPTIONAL, organization-name [ 3 ] PrintableString OPTIONAL, numeric-use-identifier [ 4 ] NumericString OPTIONAL, personal-name [ 5 ] SET { surname [ 0 ] PrintableString, given-name [ 1 ] PrintableString, initials [ 2 ] PrintableString, generation-qualifier [ 3 ] PrintableString } OPTIONAL, organizational-unit-name [ 6 ] PrintableString OPTIONAL, } built-in-domain-defined-attributes SEQUENCE OF { type PrintableString SIZE(1..64), value PrintableString SIZE(1..64) } OPTIONAL extensionAttributes SET OF SEQUENCE { extension-attribute-type [ 0 ] INTEGER, extension-attribute-value [ 1 ] ANY DEFINED BY extension-attribute-type } OPTIONAL } Given that, I would hope that X.400 not only includes a recipient deceased non-delivery notification but also a detailed record of what the cause of death was, a complete autopsy report, and an address to send flowers to. Peter.
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