[openpgp] Launching of chatmail with a particular OpenPGP twist

holger krekel <holger@merlinux.eu> Fri, 15 December 2023 22:21 UTC

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From: holger krekel <holger@merlinux.eu>
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Subject: [openpgp] Launching of chatmail with a particular OpenPGP twist
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A quick note: Some hundred thousands of DC users (we don't really count, sorry)
are practically OpenPGP users through Autocrypt/SecureJoin protocols of Delta Chat. 
Two days ago we launched chatmail, a new minimalist standard open-signup e-mail setup 
that only allows OpenPGP-encrypted messages to be relayed:

    https://delta.chat/en/2023-12-13-chatmail

We are aware that this could have repercussions for the OpenPGP 
eco-system, especially key-servers, at least in the long run. 
So we don't think there is any urgency to discuss this but
let us note that we are open for critique, collaboration 
and discussion, but maybe off the list, depending on interest. 

cheers,
holger