Re: [openpgp] [PATCH] RFC4880bis: Argon2i
Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org> Tue, 03 November 2015 11:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [openpgp] [PATCH] RFC4880bis: Argon2i
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Congratulations btw on winning the competition! Kathleen and Stephen can confirm, but I believe you don't have to do anything in terms of adding any language in this case (no patent issued/sought, patent pending, etc.). When/if the document is adopted by the working group, the chair will request any disclosures. On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Alex Biryukov <alex.biryukov@uni.lu> wrote: > Hi all, > > We were not intending to patent it, so we can add a sentence about it. > Suggestions of lawyer-happy phrases are welcome. > > Alex > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','joe@cdt.org');>> wrote: > >> At IETF94 one question that came up in trying to move quickly to >> support Argon2 is the potential IPR that might be in Argon2. The code >> available now [1] is CC0 which, AFAICT, doesn't have any patent grant >> or implication for patents, etc., meaning the authors could still >> claim something, precluding it from use without a waiver (or whatever, >> IANAL) >> >> I'll CC the Argon2 authors (on the Argon2 spec [2]) here and see if we >> can clarify any potential IPR and whether that might affect using it >> in the future in OpenPGP. >> >> best, Joe >> >> [1]: https://github.com/p-h-c/phc-winner-argon2 >> [2]: https://password-hashing.net/argon2-specs.pdf >> >> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','simon@josefsson.org');>> wrote: >> > Den Tue, 3 Nov 2015 07:45:44 +0100 >> > skrev Re: [openpgp] [PATCH] RFC4880bis: Argon2i: >> > >> >> Hi Daniel, >> >> >> >> > If we introduce this as a normative dependency for OpenPGP, though, >> >> > we might also want to have an IETF RFC for Argon2. Do you know of >> >> > anyone working on such a draft? >> >> >> >> Simon Josefsson has expressed interest in helping with that. >> >> @Simon: are you working on this? >> > >> > I started on an Argon2 draft but after talking to the Argon2 team we >> > decided to wait until Argon2 was finalized. I suppose now is a good >> > time to resume that work. I'll put something up on gitlab.com so >> > people can review and help. If anyone wants to help, please let me >> > know and we'll coordinate something. >> > >> > /Simon >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > openpgp mailing list >> > openpgp@ietf.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','openpgp@ietf.org');> >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/openpgp >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Joseph Lorenzo Hall >> Chief Technologist >> Center for Democracy & Technology >> 1634 I ST NW STE 1100 >> Washington DC 20006-4011 >> (p) 202-407-8825 >> (f) 202-637-0968 >> joe@cdt.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','joe@cdt.org');> >> PGP: https://josephhall.org/gpg-key >> fingerprint: 3CA2 8D7B 9F6D DBD3 4B10 1607 5F86 6987 40A9 A871 >> > > > > -- > --------------------------------- > Prof. Dr. Alex Biryukov, > FSTC/CSC, University of Luxembourg, > 6, rue Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi, > L-1359 Luxembourg-Kirchberg > LUXEMBOURG > Tel: +352 46 66 44 6793 > Fax: +352 46 66 44 5500 > -- Joseph Lorenzo Hall Chief Technologist Center for Democracy & Technology 1634 I ST NW STE 1100 Washington DC 20006-4011 (p) 202-407-8825 (f) 202-637-0968 joe@cdt.org PGP: https://josephhall.org/gpg-key fingerprint: 3CA2 8D7B 9F6D DBD3 4B10 1607 5F86 6987 40A9 A871
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