Re: [openpgp] Summary v5 fingerprint proposal

Nicholas Cole <nicholas.cole@gmail.com> Thu, 23 March 2017 11:18 UTC

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From: Nicholas Cole <nicholas.cole@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 11:18:05 +0000
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Subject: Re: [openpgp] Summary v5 fingerprint proposal
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On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 7:53 AM, Werner Koch <wk@gnupg.org> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I try to summarize the positions on the v5 fingerprint porposal:
>
> In favor of SHA-512 truncated to 200 bits:
>
>   - Thijs: Not a strong preference, though.
>
>   - Jon: Speed of fingerprint computing doesn't matter.  SHA-512 is more
>          future proof.
>
> In favor of SHA-256 truncated to 200 bits:
>
>   - Vincent: Even wants to truncate to 160 bits.
>
>   - Derek: Better for small systems.  He gave numbers and showed that
>            for fingerprints SHA-256 is even faster on systems where
>            SHA-512 is in general faster.
>
>   - Peter Gutmann: Better for small systems.
>
>   - Werner: Allows SHA-256 only implementation to support IoST systems.
>
>
> Other comments:
>
>   - Jon: Use SHA-512/t to have a well defined truncation scheme.
>
>   - Peter Todd: Do not truncated because the saving is not worth using a
>                 non-standard scheme.
>
>   - Brian: Use SHAKE128 or 256, will be needed anyway if we add
>            Curve448.
>
>   - Werner: Using SHA-512 would allow compliant applications in case
>             Ed25519 would be a mandatory algorithm.
>


I'd add this one:

any time a spec does something non-standard it is a lightening rod for
criticism and FUD.  Even if there are good and rational reasons for
doing something else, I'd advocate using a standard hash without
truncating for that reason.

Nicholas