Re: [openpgp] rechartering topics poll results...

Falko Strenzke <falko.strenzke@mtg.de> Fri, 27 October 2023 06:24 UTC

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Subject: Re: [openpgp] rechartering topics poll results...
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Hi Stephen,

I also agree with this agenda.

- Falko

Am 26.10.23 um 16:56 schrieb Stephen Farrell:
>
> Hiya,
>
> Before we try send some new charter text to the IESG for
> approval, it'd be great to get a few more positive acks
> that the plan below is ok with folks,
>
> Thanks,
> S.
>
> On 21/10/2023 13:53, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Thanks to those who took the time to take part in our poll
>> to try figure out how to prioritise the list of topics that
>> you'd like to see the WG tackle in future.
>>
>> dkg and I had a call to discuss the results [1] of our poll
>> for initial topics, to try turn those results into milestones
>> for our updated WG charter. [2]
>>
>> It looks to us like the poll respondents may well have picked
>> an initial 4 that might make sense for the WG so we'd like to
>> check that now. Recall that our plan is to add from the other
>> topics mentioned in the charter as milestones are completed or
>> parked, so we're not ruling things out here, we're just saying
>> which topics we'll tackle first.
>>
>> We think our poll results could map to these initial milestones:
>>
>> "
>>     - November 2023 - call for adoption of drafts related to
>>       post quantum cryptography to produce a proposed standard
>>       RFC
>>     - January 2024 - call for adoption of drafts related to
>>       superseded keys to produce a proposed standard RFC
>>     - January 2024 - call for adoption of drafts related to
>>       persistent symmetric keys to produce a proposed standard
>>       RFC
>>     - March 2024 - call for adoption of drafts related to
>>       WKD and/or HKP to produce a proposed standard RFC
>> "
>>
>> The above basically stages the top 4 from the poll but
>> with a bit of a nod to recent list discussion related to
>> WKD/HKP. (On that last, if we plan a call for adoption in
>> 6 months time, we've plenty of time to think more.)
>>
>> That looks to the chairs like it may be tractable set of
>> topics to try address in a reasonable time-frame so we'd
>> like to get your feedback on that as an outcome by the
>> 27th of October. If we think your feedback is that the
>> above has captured the rough consensus of the WG then
>> we'll add those milestones to the charter text [1] and
>> send that to our AD asking that the IESG process
>> re-chartering the WG on that basis. Positive feedback
>> that this is an ok set of initial milestones would be
>> welcome. (If the overall WG feedback goes in some other
>> direction we'll need to go into a chair-huddle again to
>> see what to try next;-)
>>
>> Three other things to note:
>>
>> 1) these milestones are for calls for adoption - that
>> gives people interested in these topics time to write
>> and/or polish drafts before the WG discusses adoption
>> so we do not have to only consider the current set of
>> drafts related to each topic
>>
>> 2) in the case of PQC we can probably start discussion
>> right now, as it's very clear the WG want to do work
>> there - watch for a separate mail on the agenda for our
>> upcoming Prague meeting
>>
>> 3) it could be that this initial set of topics might
>> lead to a situation where the overall set of editors
>> of WG documents places too much work on a set of people
>> with one sponsor, which'd be possibly unfair on those
>> people. So, as the WG adopt drafts on different topics,
>> the chairs may sometimes have to seek out new editors
>> if we run into that situation. (That's actually always
>> the official IETF process but changing editors at the
>> time of adoption doesn't happen that much, so we thought
>> it worth calling out this potential issue.)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> dkg & Stephen.
>>
>> [1]
>> https://civs1.civs.us/cgi-bin/results.pl?num_winners=4&id=E_febc2b2122c5843d&rkey=&algorithm=beatpath 
>>
>> [2] 
>> https://gitlab.com/openpgp-wg/openpgp-wg-admin/-/blob/main/charter.md
>>
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