Re: [openpgp] rechartering topics poll results...

Daniel Huigens <d.huigens@protonmail.com> Thu, 26 October 2023 15:05 UTC

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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 15:04:43 +0000
To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
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Subject: Re: [openpgp] rechartering topics poll results...
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It also sounds good to me, thanks!

Best,
Daniel


------- Original Message -------
On Thursday, October 26th, 2023 at 16:56, Stephen Farrell wrote:

> Hiya,
> 
> Before we try send some new charter text to the IESG for
> approval, it'd be great to get a few more positive acks
> that the plan below is ok with folks,
> 
> Thanks,
> S.
> 
> On 21/10/2023 13:53, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Thanks to those who took the time to take part in our poll
> > to try figure out how to prioritise the list of topics that
> > you'd like to see the WG tackle in future.
> > 
> > dkg and I had a call to discuss the results [1] of our poll
> > for initial topics, to try turn those results into milestones
> > for our updated WG charter. [2]
> > 
> > It looks to us like the poll respondents may well have picked
> > an initial 4 that might make sense for the WG so we'd like to
> > check that now. Recall that our plan is to add from the other
> > topics mentioned in the charter as milestones are completed or
> > parked, so we're not ruling things out here, we're just saying
> > which topics we'll tackle first.
> > 
> > We think our poll results could map to these initial milestones:
> > 
> > "
> > - November 2023 - call for adoption of drafts related to
> > post quantum cryptography to produce a proposed standard
> > RFC
> > - January 2024 - call for adoption of drafts related to
> > superseded keys to produce a proposed standard RFC
> > - January 2024 - call for adoption of drafts related to
> > persistent symmetric keys to produce a proposed standard
> > RFC
> > - March 2024 - call for adoption of drafts related to
> > WKD and/or HKP to produce a proposed standard RFC
> > "
> > 
> > The above basically stages the top 4 from the poll but
> > with a bit of a nod to recent list discussion related to
> > WKD/HKP. (On that last, if we plan a call for adoption in
> > 6 months time, we've plenty of time to think more.)
> > 
> > That looks to the chairs like it may be tractable set of
> > topics to try address in a reasonable time-frame so we'd
> > like to get your feedback on that as an outcome by the
> > 27th of October. If we think your feedback is that the
> > above has captured the rough consensus of the WG then
> > we'll add those milestones to the charter text [1] and
> > send that to our AD asking that the IESG process
> > re-chartering the WG on that basis. Positive feedback
> > that this is an ok set of initial milestones would be
> > welcome. (If the overall WG feedback goes in some other
> > direction we'll need to go into a chair-huddle again to
> > see what to try next;-)
> > 
> > Three other things to note:
> > 
> > 1) these milestones are for calls for adoption - that
> > gives people interested in these topics time to write
> > and/or polish drafts before the WG discusses adoption
> > so we do not have to only consider the current set of
> > drafts related to each topic
> > 
> > 2) in the case of PQC we can probably start discussion
> > right now, as it's very clear the WG want to do work
> > there - watch for a separate mail on the agenda for our
> > upcoming Prague meeting
> > 
> > 3) it could be that this initial set of topics might
> > lead to a situation where the overall set of editors
> > of WG documents places too much work on a set of people
> > with one sponsor, which'd be possibly unfair on those
> > people. So, as the WG adopt drafts on different topics,
> > the chairs may sometimes have to seek out new editors
> > if we run into that situation. (That's actually always
> > the official IETF process but changing editors at the
> > time of adoption doesn't happen that much, so we thought
> > it worth calling out this potential issue.)
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > dkg & Stephen.
> > 
> > [1]
> > https://civs1.civs.us/cgi-bin/results.pl?num_winners=4&id=E_febc2b2122c5843d&rkey=&algorithm=beatpath
> > [2] https://gitlab.com/openpgp-wg/openpgp-wg-admin/-/blob/main/charter.md
> > 
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