Re: [openpgp] Choices for AEAD modes [was: AEAD and Rome]
Werner Koch <wk@gnupg.org> Mon, 27 June 2022 07:06 UTC
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Subject: Re: [openpgp] Choices for AEAD modes [was: AEAD and Rome]
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On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 20:59, Stephen Farrell said: > That was in relation to some already-deployed stuff. It is Nope. > entirely fine to note that things were already deployed but > it's not fine to claim WG consensus for anything done since > RFC4880 really - the previous incarnation of this WG didn't > manage to reach consensus (which ought be a lesson for us Nope. Please check the archives: for each iteration comments were collected and features adjusted until everone agreed that this is fine. I call this rough consensus. This was actually done in a very transparent manner. I explained it more than once: we had a nearly finished version but then new folks showed up and demanded minor and major changes. All progress stopped with that filibuster behaviour up until the WG was closed. Second system effect at its best. Salam-Shalom, Werner -- The pioneers of a warless world are the youth that refuse military service. - A. Einstein
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