Re: SERPENT in OpenPGP?

Christoph Anton Mitterer <calestyo@scientia.net> Mon, 30 August 2010 23:17 UTC

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Subject: Re: SERPENT in OpenPGP?
From: Christoph Anton Mitterer <calestyo@scientia.net>
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On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 20:56 +0200, Werner Koch wrote:
> Well, it is free software and thus easy to change.  In fact, you only
> need to convince the maintainer of one of theses Debian based distros
> and it will soon be availabale to a lot of users.
Would be just a waste of time, nobody would include such code, if
upstream already has no intention to merge it...

btw: why does libgcrypt support anything else than the mainstreams
(AES,3DES,DES,CAMELLIA)? At least it seems from
(http://www.gnupg.org/documentation/manuals/gcrypt/Available-ciphers.html#Available-ciphers) that e.g. serpent would be already in?


>   That is not that I
> suggest to do it ;-).
Well if the majority obviously wants to have everything restricted to
the current majors... then yes =)
Guess this is a similar discussion as with Whirlpool...


> > That's also why I'm very pleased about the ID on ECC,... having it sooner
> > than later available makes me sleep much better.
> 
> That is something more worth to put your energy it.  I'd really like to
> see ECC implemented.
Would also see this to be the most important todo right now,...
nevertheless, the other points I've mentioned before (stricter/clearer
standard or general revision as Ian  +  more certifyable attributes)
would be close to the priority of ECC (IMHO).
But I guess there's also little chances to see any of them ;)


Cheers,
Chris.