Re: [Openv6] [Aeon] Next step, IETF 90?

"Jun Bi" <junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn> Mon, 21 July 2014 20:49 UTC

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From: "Jun Bi" <junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn>
To: "'Reinaldo Penno'" <rapenno@gmail.com>, "'Charles Eckel \(eckelcu\)'" <eckelcu@cisco.com>, "'Tina TSOU'" <Tina.Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com>, <karagian@cs.utwente.nl>, <fanpeng@chinamobile.com>
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Hi, all,

 

Just spent some time to read all messages in this thread. 

 

My personal conclusions are:

 

1 AECON and APNOF are not the same, as pointed by Tina's ppt and messages
from others. Basically, I think AECON is for device's new interfaces on
flows characters for end user application ("The purpose of Application
Enabled Collaborative Network (AECON) is to enable communication between
applications and the network by active information exchange"." This exchange
provides network nodes with visibility of the application flow
characteristics. While ANONF is for the network operator's policies
enforcement.

 

2 For your question below, I don't think (2) means to specifies what to do
inside a device. By my understanding (might not be very precisely), APNOF
specifies an architecture, with new or excision to existing signaling
protocols to support it. So APONF does deal with interoperability between
network elements, therefore, I believe it fits for IETF's scope.

 

Thanks,

Jun Bi

PS. part of APNOF's goals might overlaps (in some degree) with Open Daylight
project. But ODP is just an open source organization, not a SDO, so IETF
might be a venue for standardization.

 

 

From: openv6-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:openv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
Reinaldo Penno
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 2:18 PM
To: Charles Eckel (eckelcu); Tina TSOU; karagian@cs.utwente.nl;
fanpeng@chinamobile.com
Cc: Szilveszter.Nadas@ericsson.com; aeon@ietf.org; Openv6@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Openv6] [Aeon] Next step, IETF 90?

 

I just responded to the other comment but (2) does not seem to be IETF work.
IETF is about on the wire protocol interoperability, what happens inside a
device probably has a good venue in some other SDO.  

On 7/21/14, 2:11 PM, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) wrote:

Perhaps some network devices will allow themselves to be controlled by end
user application applications, but that is not the model proposed by AECON.
Rather, AECON separates:

1.	the communication of the flow characteristics from
2.	the policy decisions and actions made by network devices based on
that communication

AECON is about the first, not the second.