Re: [Openv6] regarding name of our activity and mailing list name
Tina TSOU <Tina.Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com> Tue, 19 August 2014 10:01 UTC
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From: Tina TSOU <Tina.Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com>
To: Ying Cheng <chengying10@chinaunicom.cn>
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Subject: Re: [Openv6] regarding name of our activity and mailing list name
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Dear Ying et al, Thank you for asking. As far as I know, the mail administrators are working with Spencer and IETF secretary to create supa@ietf.org<mailto:supa@ietf.org>, auto subscribe everyone in openv6@ietf.org<mailto:openv6@ietf.org> to the new list, and also copy the mail archieves to there. Pls stay tuned. Regarding the protocol specs, I’m aware that people like Georgios, Luis, Will, Jun, Kireeti, Andrew, Juergen, JF et al are discussing offline about the Network Model for a programmable interface to virtual links: Describe the network configuration. Describe the layer 0-7 network topology, including the relationship between intra-layer and inter-layer connections. It would be good if they could bring some discussion to the mailing list for broader audience. Thank you, Tina ________________________________ 发件人: Ying Cheng 发送时间: 2014-08-18 17:42:18 收件人: Jun Bi; 'Tina TSOU'; 'Jose Saldana'; 'spencer dawkins' 抄送: kireeti@juniper.net<mailto:kireeti@juniper.net>; andrew.qu@mediatek.com<mailto:andrew.qu@mediatek.com>; openv6@ietf.org<mailto:openv6@ietf.org>; 'Liushucheng (Will)'; karagian@cs.utwente.nl<mailto:karagian@cs.utwente.nl> 主题: Re: RE: [Openv6] regarding name of our activity and mailing list name Dear all, I am not sure whether I have captured all the points. Shall we subscribe the new email reflector supa@ietf.org<mailto:supa@ietf.org>? Additionally, what are the possible protocol specifications for SUPA? Thanks and best regards, Ying 2014-08-18 ________________________________ Ying CHENG 程莹 China Unicom Network Technology Research Institute 中国联通网络技术研究院 Tel: +86-10-68799999-7702 Mobile: +86-18601102971 ________________________________ 发件人: Jun Bi 发送时间: 2014-08-04 15:57:10 收件人: 'Tina TSOU'; 'Jose Saldana'; 'spencer dawkins' 抄送: Ying Cheng(联通集团联通网络技术研究院); kireeti@juniper.net<mailto:kireeti@juniper.net>; andrew.qu@mediatek.com<mailto:andrew.qu@mediatek.com>; openv6@ietf.org<mailto:openv6@ietf.org>; 'Liushucheng (Will)'; karagian@cs.utwente.nl<mailto:karagian@cs.utwente.nl> 主题: RE: [Openv6] regarding name of our activity and mailing list name Good. Thanks, Jun From: openv6-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:openv6-bounces@ietf.org> [mailto:openv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tina TSOU Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 2:42 PM To: Jose Saldana; spencer dawkins Cc: Ying Cheng; kireeti@juniper.net<mailto:kireeti@juniper.net>; andrew.qu@mediatek.com<mailto:andrew.qu@mediatek.com>; openv6@ietf.org<mailto:openv6@ietf.org>; Liushucheng (Will); junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn<mailto:junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn>; karagian@cs.utwente.nl<mailto:karagian@cs.utwente.nl> Subject: Re: [Openv6] regarding name of our activity and mailing list name Dear all, It seems that the consensus is to change openv6@ietf.org<mailto:openv6@ietf.org> to supa@ietf.org<mailto:supa@ietf.org>. Dear Spencer, Would you help to get it done? Thank you, Tina On Jul 31, 2014, at 4:46 PM, "Jose Saldana" <jsaldana@unizar.es<mailto:jsaldana@unizar.es>> wrote: +1 Jose De: Openv6 [mailto:openv6-bounces@ietf.org] En nombre de Ying Cheng Enviado el: jueves, 31 de julio de 2014 9:11 Para: Liushucheng (Will); karagian@cs.utwente.nl<mailto:karagian@cs.utwente.nl>; Tina TSOU; junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn<mailto:junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn> CC: andrew.qu@mediatek.com<mailto:andrew.qu@mediatek.com>; kireeti@juniper.net<mailto:kireeti@juniper.net>; openv6@ietf.org<mailto:openv6@ietf.org> Asunto: Re: [Openv6] regarding name of our activity and mailing list name Dear all, Thanks for Tina's suggestion. From my personal opinion, SUPA can better reflect our actual work. BR, Ying 2014-07-31 ________________________________ Ying CHENG 程莹 China Unicom Network Technology Research Institute 中国联通网络技术研究院 Tel: +86-10-68799999-7702 Mobile: +86-18601102971 ________________________________ 发件人: Liushucheng (Will) 发送时间: 2014-07-29 14:18:01 收件人: karagian@cs.utwente.nl<mailto:karagian@cs.utwente.nl>; Tina TSOU; junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn<mailto:junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn> 抄送: andrew.qu@mediatek.com<mailto:andrew.qu@mediatek.com>; kireeti@juniper.net<mailto:kireeti@juniper.net>; openv6@ietf.org<mailto:openv6@ietf.org> 主题: Re: [Openv6] regarding name of our activity and mailing list name +1, the shorter, the easier to remember. Regards, Will (Shucheng LIU) From: Openv6 [mailto:openv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of karagian@cs.utwente.nl<mailto:karagian@cs.utwente.nl> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 2:01 AM To: Tina TSOU; junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn<mailto:junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn> Cc: andrew.qu@mediatek.com<mailto:andrew.qu@mediatek.com>; kireeti@juniper.net<mailto:kireeti@juniper.net>; openv6@ietf.org<mailto:openv6@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [Openv6] regarding name of our activity and mailing list name Deae Tina, Dear all, Thank you very much! I would perefer the name SUPA, since it is representing our activity more accurately than what the name PANAMA is representing. Best regards, Georgios ________________________________ Van: Tina TSOU [Tina.Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com<mailto:Tina.Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com>] Verzonden: maandag 28 juli 2014 5:37 Aan: Jun Bi CC: Karagiannis, G. (EWI); openv6@ietf.org<mailto:openv6@ietf.org>; andrew.qu@mediatek.com<mailto:andrew.qu@mediatek.com>; kireeti@juniper.net<mailto:kireeti@juniper.net> Onderwerp: Re: [Openv6] regarding name of our activity and mailing list name Dear Jun, Georgios et al, How about SUPA: Shared Unified Policy Automation or PANAMA: Polices for Application-based Network Administration & Management Automation ? Thank you, Tina On Jul 25, 2014, at 5:23 PM, "Jun Bi" <junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn<mailto:junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn>> wrote: Then let's propose a new name of the WG. -----Original Message----- From: openv6-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:openv6-bounces@ietf.org> [mailto:openv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of karagian@cs.utwente.nl<mailto:karagian@cs.utwente.nl> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 4:01 AM To: junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn<mailto:junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn>; openv6@ietf.org<mailto:openv6@ietf.org> Subject: [Openv6] regarding name of our activity and mailing list name Hi Jin, Hi all, Thank you very much for your suggestion! There are two possible paths that we could follow: 1) Keep the name APONF and create a new mailing list with name: aponf@ietf.org<mailto:aponf@ietf.org> Drawback: the name contains the words "Network Functions" which might be misleiding 2) Create a new name that represents the goal of this activity more accurately than APONF and also a new mailing list that uses this new name. Some time ago the name PANAMA had been proposed! Please express your opinion on which of the two options we should choose? Best regards, Georgios ________________________________________ Van: Openv6 [openv6-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:openv6-bounces@ietf.org>] namens Jun Bi [junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn<mailto:junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn>] Verzonden: vrijdag 25 juli 2014 1:28 Aan: openv6@ietf.org<mailto:openv6@ietf.org> Onderwerp: Re: [Openv6] new APONF goals based on APONF bar BOF meeting BTW, shall we change the name of mailing-list to aponf@ietf.org<mailto:aponf@ietf.org> ? Thanks, Jun -----Original Message----- From: Jun Bi [mailto:junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 7:27 PM To: 'openv6@ietf.org<mailto:openv6@ietf.org>' Subject: RE: [Openv6] new APONF goals based on APONF bar BOF meeting One example to use APONF for SAVI (source address validation improvements). Thanks! Jun -----Original Message----- From: Jun Bi [mailto:junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:23 AM To: 'Tom Taylor'; 'karagian@cs.utwente.nl<mailto:karagian@cs.utwente.nl>'; 'openv6@ietf.org<mailto:openv6@ietf.org>' Subject: RE: [Openv6] new APONF goals based on APONF bar BOF meeting I have a suggestion to change the terminology. For figure 1 on page 4, the "end user application" is not a good term. I noticed that the figure in the latest PPT from Georgios and Tina, " end user application" was changed to "network service". I think it is good. So one page 5 of APONF problem statement draft: "Network Management Application: Operational Support System (OSS) like applications that help a communication service provider to monitor, control, analyze and manage a communication network." Could we change " Network Management Application" to "Network Service", to be consist with the latest figure ? In addition, may I propose we also change "Network Management Application System" to "Network Service System" ? Change the definition "Network management application systems: Systems or platforms that run the network management application." To "Network Service Systems: Systems or platforms that run the network service." Best Regards, Jun Bi -----Original Message----- From: openv6-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:openv6-bounces@ietf.org> [mailto:openv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tom Taylor Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 6:26 PM To: karagian@cs.utwente.nl<mailto:karagian@cs.utwente.nl>; openv6@ietf.org<mailto:openv6@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [Openv6] new APONF goals based on APONF bar BOF meeting Follow-up below, expressing my understanding of further details agreed last night. On 14-07-22 05:13 PM, karagian@cs.utwente.nl<mailto:karagian@cs.utwente.nl> wrote: Hi all, To be informed! Please note that this version is modified based on the comments that we received yesterday during the bar BOF meeting. ... Procedurally: when a new service is defined, the Network Management (NM) Application function downloads an initial network service graph to the NM Control function. The data includes triggers for NM Control to feed back updates to the graph. When one of these triggers is engaged, NM Control sends back a refreshed network service graph. Discussion Point 1: I am trying to relate this to SFC as a service. The starting point is the Service Function Chain. This has to be translated into one or more instances of a Service Function Path, which get passed to the Service Classifier. Path derivation is logically something NM Control would be responsible for. Which APONF function would be responsible for distributing the path information to the Classifier(s)? Discussion Point 2: to do its mapping between information gathered from Network Elements (NE) and the network service graphs, NM Control needs a database associating NE-provided attributes with service-specific labels. Would downloading of such a dictionary be part of APONF responsibilities, or would we leave creation of the database to be an operator-specific matter? I stand to be corrected on my basic understanding of APONF operation, and welcome comments on the discussion points. Tom Taylor _______________________________________________ Openv6 mailing list Openv6@ietf.org<mailto:Openv6@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/openv6 _______________________________________________ Openv6 mailing list Openv6@ietf.org<mailto:Openv6@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/openv6 _______________________________________________ Openv6 mailing list Openv6@ietf.org<mailto:Openv6@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/openv6 _______________________________________________ Openv6 mailing list Openv6@ietf.org<mailto:Openv6@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/openv6 如果您错误接收了该邮件,请通过电子邮件立即通知我们。请回复邮件到hqs-spmc@chinaunicom.cn<mailto:hqs-spmc@chinaunicom.cn>,即可以退订此邮件。我们将立即将您的信息从我们的发送目录中删除。 If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately by e-mail. 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