[OPS-NM] Re: [NGO] XSDMI work
Andy Bierman <ietf@andybierman.com> Fri, 10 August 2007 17:20 UTC
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Subject: [OPS-NM] Re: [NGO] XSDMI work
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David Harrington wrote: > Hi, > > The XSDMI BOF proposed the creation of a WG to develop 1) the XSD > equivalents of datatypes and textual conventions from SMIv2, and 2) > algorithms to translate MIB module specifications into XSD > equivalents. The BOF demonstrated community support for these two work > items. > > People in the BOF volunteered to commit to being editors (3) and > reviewers (14) for these work items. Starting documents and > implementations already exist. The work is expected to take less than > 12 months. > > At Dan's suggestion, rather than starting a new WG for this work, we > have proposed that the SMI-to-XSD translation work be done in the > OPSAWG. > I have an objection to this "translation" work. You will make all kinds of assumptions about data organization and data naming, and I'm not sure what people are supposed to do with the XSDs. The term "XSD translation" is misleading. The XML on the wire is what is at stake here. The smidump translation of a MIB has SNMP operations built into it. Is this work supposed to produce a standard way to send an SNMP PDU over any protocol designed to encode SNMP PDUs in XML? Why do we need this? Is the charter going to state that the XSD translation will be suitable for use for any particular protocol? NETCONF needs to standardize XML data organization, namespace usage, and Xpath-based data naming. Is this translation going to be compatible with that standard when it eventually comes out? I would like the charter to be clear on the purpose of this work item, and what 'protocols' are signed up to use it. > The OPSAWG chairs need to determine whether the OPSAWG WG should > accept this work. Please send email to opsawg@ietf.org with comments > about your support/lack of support for having the OPSAWG do this work. > (If you do not subscribe to opsawg, you might want to do so, in order > to follow the discussions.) > > David Harrington > dbharrington@comcast.net > ietfdbh@comcast.net > > Andy _______________________________________________ OPS-NM mailing list OPS-NM@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ops-nm
- [OPS-NM] Re: [OPSAWG] Re: [NGO] XSDMI work Ron Bonica
- [OPS-NM] XSDMI work David Harrington
- [OPS-NM] Re: [NGO] XSDMI work Andy Bierman
- [OPS-NM] Re: [OPSAWG] Re: [NGO] XSDMI work Andy Bierman
- [OPS-NM] Re: [OPSAWG] Re: [NGO] XSDMI work Andy Bierman