Re: [OPSAWG] draft-pignataro-opsawg-oam-whaaat-question-mark

Carlos Pignataro <cmpignat@ncsu.edu> Sun, 24 March 2024 18:46 UTC

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Many thanks Thomas and Alex, both for the support, as well as for the useful suggestions.

Alex, “on-path” is much more descriptive than “in-band” for sure!

Thomas, Alex, will send an iteration of the draft incorporating the Node Type suggestion.

Thanks!

Carlos.

> On Mar 18, 2024, at 2:55 AM, Alex Huang Feng <alex.huang-feng@insa-lyon.fr> wrote:
> 
> Dear Carlos and Adrian,
> 
> As I said in the chat during the OPSAWG meeting, I also support this document.
> I don’t have a lot of specific examples of how the terminology are confusing, but I am co-authoring draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-on-path-telemetry where it started as an inband telemetry protocol and then we were asked to change this terminology to “on-path telemetry protocol”. 
> Also I haven’t been able to find a clear formal definition of “on-path telemetry protocol”.
> 
> Thanks for the document,
> Alex
> 
>> On 18 Mar 2024, at 15:32, Thomas.Graf@swisscom.com wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Carlos and Adrian,
>>  
>> As the author of draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-on-path-telemetry, I care and value that you are defining OAM terminology. This is much needed. Count me on the list of people who misused the term inband previously.
>>  
>> I would appreciate of you could add also OAM node type. As an example in RFC 9398 for IOAM the following types are defined
>>  
>> IOAM encapsulation node
>> IOAM transit node
>> IOAM decapsulation node
>>  
>> It would be very useful to have an OAM protocol agnostic terminology.
>>  
>> Best wishes
>> Thomas
>>  
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