Re: [OPSAWG] [IETF-OPSAWG-WG/lxnm] inbound/outbound terminology (Issue #353)

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From: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>
To: "Joe Clarke (jclarke)" <jclarke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "mohamed.boucadair@orange.com" <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>, Julian Lucek <jlucek@juniper.net>, "opsawg@ietf.org" <opsawg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] [IETF-OPSAWG-WG/lxnm] inbound/outbound terminology (Issue #353)
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On 10/28/21 08:38, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com<mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:
Hi Julian,

Moving the discussion to the list to have more eyes from the WG on this particular point:

“But I would urge you to change the terminology to "PE-to-CE-bandwidth" /"CE-to-PE-bandwidth" to make it super-explicit, the current terminology has been causing endless confusion to implementers (I realise it's inherited from the service models, but changing the terminology in LXNM would cure the problem well)”
All, Julian raised early this week a comment about an L2NM terminology we are inheriting from the service model. The full context of this discussion can be seen at: https://github.com/IETF-OPSAWG-WG/lxnm/issues/353.

As a contributor, reading the current draft text in conjunction with the YANG model description, I agree with Julian.  It's confusing.  Typo aside, I had to jump back and forth a couple of times to grok things correctly.  Aligning the terminology in the module with text in Section 7.6.4 in terms of CE vs. PE and direction would help.

<tp>

Or you could align it with l3nm where a similar issue was raised and the wording was changed to make it clearer.  The wording does not use PE or CE, and is the wording that that the  IESG has approved!

Tom Petch

Joe


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Med

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Hi Med

In https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-opsawg-l2nm-09 it says as follows, maybe it is a typo?

container svc-outbound-bandwidth {
if-feature "vpn-common:outbound-bw";
description
"From the PE perspective, the service outbound
bandwidth of the connection.";

But I would urge you to change the terminology to "PE-to-CE-bandwidth" /"CE-to-PE-bandwidth" to make it super-explicit, the current terminology has been causing endless confusion to implementers (I realise it's inherited from the service models, but changing the terminology in LXNM would cure the problem well)

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