From Thomas.Graf@swisscom.com Mon Mar 18 17:41:27 2024 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsawg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsawg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CD4C14F61A; Mon, 18 Mar 2024 17:41:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.105 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.105 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=swisscom.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0PafiHW-pxRj; Mon, 18 Mar 2024 17:41:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.swisscom.com (mailout110.swisscom.com [138.188.166.110]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24E74C14F5F6; Mon, 18 Mar 2024 17:40:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.swisscom.com; Tue, 19 Mar 2024 01:40:52 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=swisscom.com; s=iscm; t=1710808852; bh=acGueah8Kr5iiW7vNBssSzpYbk2IZmPo6FuqSk/aww4=; h=From:To:Subject:Date; b=sm8lLPkxb2EBR2hdL0kAVx0Mx4GbYU/cf0sk1eGLN4OnU+6IqHr+3KNr6z7r7z/kW 2j9tsayruNB7I4n31QwliQF3CrHUpGYfnG3OWm9AvRq+igoiJHyPDwd3ve9I+7WBWp qyUP4jrS02k/nVTw1KGXeVui7QqMrNSPkFqYXCfvwKMbx6XaXFOH04OzoOvaMJesga NguAZdSaGSuFlET7r0M3rFN8XLNmmOQJa9qpIOIoTLMHL5RQ1cnsCnaPKiE61SG2hC 5nl35JMz/1t/sPcqw9KUeoaCn1In15iotP470Ov5gfXNuz9/Ag/APjhnf7BoZPlr5A hKpjlqOIhhGXQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="----=_Part_2182160_349084372.1710808851707" X-Mailer: Totemo_TrustMail_(Notification) From: To: , , Thread-Topic: draft-spiegel-ippm-ioam-rawexport Thread-Index: Adp5k6jXQyeYOkNbS/SPBXtiq8UoSw== Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 00:40:48 +0000 Message-ID: <7192bc432d5d47aa89e7ced33ff4cc84@swisscom.com> Accept-Language: en-US, de-CH Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: msip_labels: MSIP_Label_2e1fccfb-80ca-4fe1-a574-1516544edb53_ActionId=45e23629-9e3f-4f79-873c-455d3a785a47; MSIP_Label_2e1fccfb-80ca-4fe1-a574-1516544edb53_ContentBits=0; MSIP_Label_2e1fccfb-80ca-4fe1-a574-1516544edb53_Enabled=true; MSIP_Label_2e1fccfb-80ca-4fe1-a574-1516544edb53_Method=Standard; MSIP_Label_2e1fccfb-80ca-4fe1-a574-1516544edb53_Name=C2 Internal; MSIP_Label_2e1fccfb-80ca-4fe1-a574-1516544edb53_SetDate=2024-03-19T00:15:23Z; MSIP_Label_2e1fccfb-80ca-4fe1-a574-1516544edb53_SiteId=364e5b87-c1c7-420d-9bee-c35d19b557a1; x-originating-ip: [138.188.161.184] X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Trustmail: processed Archived-At: Subject: [OPSAWG] draft-spiegel-ippm-ioam-rawexport X-BeenThere: opsawg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39 Precedence: list List-Id: OPSA Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 00:41:27 -0000 ------=_Part_2182160_349084372.1710808851707 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7192bc432d5d47aa89e7ced33ff4cc84swisscomcom_" Content-Language: en-US --_000_7192bc432d5d47aa89e7ced33ff4cc84swisscomcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Justin, Dear OPSAWG and IPPM working groups Thanks a lot for the presentation at IPPM. I believe that this work needs f= urther refinement by defining also IPFIX entities for IOAM which allow a de= composition of each IOAM dimension fields, thus enabling IPFIX Flow Aggrega= tion as described in RFC 7015 which is a requirement to scale out for IOAM = DEX and Trace Option Type. I believe this should be performed after the wor= king group adoption and me should move forward quickly since IOAM is now ge= tting implemented by vendors and applied by operators. While shepherding IPFIX at OPSAWG, I noticed that most discussions where ar= ound choosing the right data type and aligning with the IPFIX registry. Not= so much about exposing the right dimensions from the data plane. draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-on-path-telemetry is already adopted and well progr= essed at OPSAWG. I suggest that draft-spiegel-ippm-ioam-rawexport is being = adopted together with draft-gfz-opsawg-ipfix-alt-mark. With that we are cov= ering both Hybrid Type options developed at IPPM. In order to pool the IPFIX entity definitions, I believe OPSAWG would be th= e best place to move with draft-spiegel-ippm-ioam-rawexport forward. I would appreciate feedback from IPPM and OPSAWG wherever they share my opi= nion or not. Best wishes Thomas --_000_7192bc432d5d47aa89e7ced33ff4cc84swisscomcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Justin, Dear OPSAWG and IP= PM working groups

 

Thanks a lot for the presentati= on at IPPM. I believe that this work needs further refinement by defining a= lso IPFIX entities for IOAM which allow a decomposition of each IOAM dimension fields, thus enabling IPFIX Flow Aggregation as des= cribed in RFC 7015 which is a requirement to scale out for IOAM DEX and Tra= ce Option Type. I believe this should be performed after the working group = adoption and me should move forward quickly since IOAM is now getting implemented by vendors and applied by op= erators.

 

While shepherding IPFIX at OPSA= WG, I noticed that most discussions where around choosing the right data ty= pe and aligning with the IPFIX registry. Not so much about exposing the right dimensions from the data plane.

 

draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-on-path= -telemetry is already adopted and well progressed at OPSAWG. I suggest that= draft-spiegel-ippm-ioam-rawexport is being adopted together with draft-gfz-opsawg-ipfix-alt-mark. With that we are covering b= oth Hybrid Type options developed at IPPM.

 

In order to pool the IPFIX enti= ty definitions, I believe OPSAWG would be the best place to move with draft= -spiegel-ippm-ioam-rawexport forward.

 

I would appreciate feedback fro= m IPPM and OPSAWG wherever they share my opinion or not.<= /p>

 

Best wishes

Thomas<= o:p>

 

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