Re: [OPSAWG] New I-D -> Guidelines for Charactering "OAM"
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Thread-Topic: [OPSAWG] New I-D -> Guidelines for Charactering "OAM"
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Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] New I-D -> Guidelines for Charactering "OAM"
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Hi Carlos, Adrian, all, Thank you for editing this document. This is really useful. Alternate terms to consider for the path-congruent terms are path-coupled/path-decoupled OAM (inspired from RFC4080). When editing RFC 9451, I wish I had terms for: * "OAM packet that exclusively includes OAM data" * "OAM packet that includes user data" I don't think "in-packet OAM" conveys unambiguously the intent. I would suggest explicit terms such as: "User Data Embedded OAM" or "OAM-embedded User Data". Thank you. Cheers, Med De : OPSAWG <opsawg-bounces@ietf.org> De la part de Carlos Pignataro Envoyé : vendredi 5 janvier 2024 21:39 À : Ops Area WG <opsawg@ietf.org>; Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Objet : [OPSAWG] New I-D -> Guidelines for Charactering "OAM" Hi, Ops Area WG, Every now and again, there are discussions on how to best characterize or qualify a particular kind of "OAM", as well as misunderstandings due to having different definitions and contexts for a given term. A case in point is "in-band" or "out-of-band" OAM, as recently surfaced at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/opsawg/jREEH1sFOZ-uxZNky-RTggpxkuk/. To alleviate this issue, Adrian and I wrote a short I-D to provide forward-looking guidance on "foobar OAM". We would appreciate feedback and input on this position, which aims at updating the guidelines for the "OAM" acronym, with unambiguous guidelines for their modifiers. Guidelines for Charactering "OAM": https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pignataro-opsawg-oam-whaaat-question-mark/ Look forward to input and comments to make this more clear and effective! Adrian & Carlos. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments. As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified. Thank you.
- Re: [OPSAWG] New I-D -> Guidelines for Characteri… Michael Richardson
- [OPSAWG] New I-D -> Guidelines for Charactering "… Carlos Pignataro
- Re: [OPSAWG] New I-D -> Guidelines for Characteri… Carlos Pignataro
- Re: [OPSAWG] New I-D -> Guidelines for Characteri… Michael Richardson
- Re: [OPSAWG] New I-D -> Guidelines for Characteri… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [OPSAWG] New I-D -> Guidelines for Characteri… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [OPSAWG] New I-D -> Guidelines for Characteri… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [OPSAWG] New I-D -> Guidelines for Characteri… Carlos Pignataro
- Re: [OPSAWG] New I-D -> Guidelines for Characteri… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [OPSAWG] New I-D -> Guidelines for Characteri… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [OPSAWG] New I-D -> Guidelines for Characteri… Carlos Pignataro
- Re: [OPSAWG] New I-D -> Guidelines for Characteri… Carlos Pignataro