Re: [OPSAWG] regarding draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community: IPR call

"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Tue, 17 April 2018 12:41 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] regarding draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community: IPR call
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As far as I can tell, the formal IPR disclosure with IPR terms was not 
filed until several days after that request.
Thus, the WG can not have considered it in the light of the actual terms.

When I asked one WG participant, he was quite surprised by the terms.

Given the difficulty both Huawei and Ericsson have gotten from IETF 
participants over similar terms, I do not think this can be ignored.

Yours,
Joel

On 4/17/18 1:12 AM, Tianran Zhou wrote:
> Hi Joel,
> 
> Thanks for reminding this important information.
> Yes, we did the IPR poll when it became a WG draft. The IPR was disclosed then. Please see
> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/opsawg/current/msg04792.html
> We did not received any objection based on this.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tianran
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joel M. Halpern [mailto:jmh@joelhalpern.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 8:25 AM
>> To: opsawg-chairs@ietf.org
>> Subject: regarding draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community: IPR call
>>
>> Is the working group aware of the IPR disclosure China Mobile made against
>> this document?  Specifically, that the IPR disclosure says that a license
>> may be required?
>>
>> Normally, I would not even comment on that, and as you can see, I am not
>> commenting on the list about it.
>>
>> But I note that this is a case where there is a clear workaround (just don't
>> do this).  So I would expect that the shepherd report, whenever that is
>> produced, will need to discuss the IPR disclosure.
>>
>> Yours,
>> Joel