Re: [OPSAWG] Call for presentations at IETF119

["Joe Clarke (jclarke)" <[e-mail]>]

Implementations are fantastic, and I personally appreciate it when operators bring problems (and solutions).

The challenge is we only have a finite amount of time for presentations; and, as you say, this work may be difficult to generate discussion.  I conferred with the other co-chairs, and it seems we’re already at our time allocation.  We will add this as a “best-effort-if-time-allows” agenda item at the very end (meaning you may not, and in all likelihood won’t, have time to speak).  That said, the mailing list is where we need to see the discussion to promote adoption and overall WG engagement.  I would hope talk of implementations might help generate such discussion.

Joe

From: Voyer, Daniel <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 09:23
To: Voyer, Daniel <daniel.voyer=[e-mail]>, Joe Clarke (jclarke) <[e-mail]>, Sriram Gopalakrishnan (sriragop) <[e-mail]>, Tianran Zhou <zhoutianran=[e-mail]>, OPSAWG <[e-mail]>
Cc: opsawg-chairs <[e-mail]>, Ralu Johny (rjohny) <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: [OPSAWG] Call for presentations at IETF119
Joe,

And forgot to mention; we are currently updating the draft with a new "implementation status" section, as there is an existing running code (with enterprise-specific IPFIX Information Elements (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7011.html#section-3.2)

Regards,
Dan


From: OPSAWG <[e-mail]> on behalf of "Voyer, Daniel" <daniel.voyer=[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 8:42 AM
To: "Joe Clarke (jclarke)" <[e-mail]>, "Sriram Gopalakrishnan (sriragop)" <[e-mail]>, Tianran Zhou <zhoutianran=[e-mail]>, OPSAWG <[e-mail]>
Cc: opsawg-chairs <[e-mail]>, "Ralu Johny (rjohny)" <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [EXT]Re: [OPSAWG] Call for presentations at IETF119

Hi Joe,

I understand your perspective regarding the presentation slot and the need for prior mailing list discussions. However, given that this draft straddle the intersection of two standards development organizations (SDOs)—where GTP-U adheres to the 3GPP protocol and IPFIX falls under the IETF—it may be challenging to generate substantial interest on the mailing list, despite our intentions.

We welcome feedback on the draft content from both the GTP-U and IPFIX viewpoints.

And most importantly , please note that during the IETF week, we will be requesting IPFIX IANA allocation. This is required to get us going with “standardized implementation”. Therefore, the purpose of the presentation slot request is to facilitate discussion around the draft.

Best Regards,
Dan (involved in both 3GPP and IETF)

From: "Joe Clarke (jclarke)" <[e-mail]>
Date: Friday, February 23, 2024 at 12:20 PM
To: "Sriram Gopalakrishnan (sriragop)" <[e-mail]>, Tianran Zhou <zhoutianran=[e-mail]>, OPSAWG <[e-mail]>
Cc: opsawg-chairs <[e-mail]>, Benoit Claise <[e-mail]>, Dan Voyer <[e-mail]>, "Ralu Johny (rjohny)" <[e-mail]>, Thomas Graf <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [EXT]Re: Call for presentations at IETF119

Hey, Sriram.  We only have the one slot for 119, and one of the things the chairs discussed to keep the agenda manageable was focusing on work that had mailing list discussion already.  I did a quick search through the IETF mail archives, and this draft has never once been raised on opsawg@ or any other mailing list that I can see.

Before we consider a presentation slot, we’d like to see this socialized and discussed on-list.

Joe

From: Sriram Gopalakrishnan (sriragop) <[e-mail]>
Date: Friday, February 23, 2024 at 11:37
To: Tianran Zhou <zhoutianran=[e-mail]>, OPSAWG <[e-mail]>
Cc: opsawg-chairs <[e-mail]>, Benoit Claise <[e-mail]>, Dan Voyer <[e-mail]>, Ralu Johny (rjohny) <[e-mail]>, Thomas Graf <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Call for presentations at IETF119
Hi Tianran

We would like to request for a 15 minutes slot for our presentation of below draft.

Name:     draft-voyersriram-opsawg-ipfix-gtpu
Revision: 03
Title:    Export of GTP-U Information in IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX)
URL:      https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-voyersriram-opsawg-ipfix-gtpu-03.txt

Thanks
--Sriram

From: OPSAWG <[e-mail]> on behalf of Tianran Zhou <zhoutianran=[e-mail]>
Date: Sunday, 18 February 2024 at 12:12 PM
To: OPSAWG <[e-mail]>
Cc: opsawg-chairs <[e-mail]>
Subject: [OPSAWG] Call for presentations at IETF119
Hi OPSAWG,

The IETF119 preliminary agenda is posted.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/119/agenda/

The joint OPSAWG and OPS Area meeting is scheduled at 15:30 - 17:00 Monday Session III.
We are now available to accept presentations. Please send your request to the chairs.
Look forward to seeing you in Brisbane.

Best,
Tianran

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