Re: [OPSAWG] 🔔 WG Adoption Call for draft-feng-opsawg-incident-management-04

I am also as confused as Alex :-)

The OPSAWG charter says:

  The Operations and Management Area receives occasional proposals for
  the development and publication of RFCs dealing with operational and
  management topics that are not in scope of an existing working group

The NMOP charter is very clear that 

  The current topics of focus for the working group are:

*	NETCONF/YANG Push integration with Apache Kafka & time series databases
*	Anomaly detection and incident management

It also says:

*	Standardize YANG data models to solve operational issues identified in
the scope items above. YANG data models potentially within the scope
of other WGs will only be progressed here with agreement from the
relevant ADs.

So, while I strongly support the IETF working on this draft, I am confused about why it is being polled for adoption in OPSAWG rather than NMOP. I appreciate that a lot of initial work has been done in OPSAWG, but now that NMOP has been chartered we should attempt to keep the lines clean.

I’d ask that the chairs of both WGs and the ADs talk to each other and give us direction on this as a matter of some urgency.

Thanks,

Adrian

PS. Unlike Alex, I don’t think the solution is to discuss the document in two WGs: that usually leads to interesting challenges

From: OPSAWG <opsawg-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Alex Huang Feng
Sent: 13 February 2024 05:25
To: Henk Birkholz <henk.birkholz@ietf.contact>
Cc: OPSAWG <opsawg@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] 🔔 WG Adoption Call for draft-feng-opsawg-incident-management-04

Dear OPSAWG,

I support the progress of this document.

I only have a comment. Since the creation of the new NMOP WG, I wonder if this draft should be discussed in that WG too. There is “incident management” in the charter.

Some of the related work such as https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-davis-nmop-incident-terminology/ is planned to be discussed there.

Just wondering.

Regards,

Alex

On 9 Feb 2024, at 00:44, Henk Birkholz <henk.birkholz@ietf.contact> wrote:

Dear OPSAWG members,

this email starts a call for Working Group Adoption of

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-feng-opsawg-incident-management-04.html

ending on Thursday, February 22nd.

As a reminder, this I-D specifies a YANG Module for Incident Management. Incidents in this context are scoped to unexpected yet quantifiable adverse effects detected in a network service. The majority of the document provides background and motivation for the structure of the YANG Module that is in support of reporting, diagnosing, and mitigating the detected adverse effects.

The chairs acknowledge some positive feedback on the list and a positive poll result at IETF118. We would like to gather feedback from the WG if there is interest to further contribute and review.

Please reply with your support and especially any substantive comments you may have.

For the OPSAWG co-chairs,

Henk

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