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tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> Wed, 17 June 2020 08:38 UTC

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From: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>
To: "'Joe Clarke (jclarke)'" <jclarke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, 'opsawg' <opsawg@ietf.org>, "adrian@olddog.co.uk" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-barguil-opsawg-l2sm-l2nm
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From: OPSAWG <opsawg-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
Sent: 16 June 2020 21:47
To: 'Joe Clarke (jclarke)'; 'opsawg'

Hi Joe,

I support adoption.

I have an interest in this work from co-chairing L3SM and L2SM, and I have been attending some of the virtual meetings although I haven't made great contributions to the work.

It seems to me that this work falls in scope alongside L3NM and I think it is similarly necessary to construct a top-to-bottom YANG-based management system for L2VPN services.

The discussion of breaking out common components into a separate module, possibly in a separate document, is worth having. It appears that some implementations struggle with imports of named elements rather than whole modules. Rather than argue about how to correctly handle imports, it seems to make sense to structure our modules to be as useful as possible.

<tp>
Well, that discussion seems well under way with the momentum of a large tank so adopting this is not adopting this but adopting (likely) two I-D one of which will be the carved-out types and the other of which will be the residue.  I think it wrong to adopt such a concept and that it would be better to have WG consensus on the carve-up first.

Tom Petch

Best,
Adrian

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From: OPSAWG <opsawg-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Joe Clarke (jclarke)
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Subject: [OPSAWG] CALL FOR ADOPTION: draft-barguil-opsawg-l2sm-l2nm

Hello, opsawg.  I hope everyone is doing well.

This starts a two-week poll for adoption of the L2 network module document.  There does seem to be interest in this work, and it is progressing nicely in GitHub with side meetings.  There appears to be questions on what will be broken out into commonality between this module and the L3NM (work which is also underway).  So while we anticipate changes to this draft, the chairs think it’s reached a point where we’d like to see if the WG wants to formally adopt the work.

Please reply on-list with your comments on the draft and whether or not you support its WG adoption.  We will conclude this call on June 30, 2020.

Thanks.

Joe
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