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Re: [OPSEC] Call For Adoption: draft-camwinget-opsec-ns-impact

"Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)" <ncamwing@cisco.com> Thu, 11 June 2020 02:31 UTC

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From: "Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)" <ncamwing@cisco.com>
To: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>, tom petch <ietfa@btconnect.com>
CC: Ron Bonica <rbonica=40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org>, OPSEC <opsec@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [OPSEC] Call For Adoption: draft-camwinget-opsec-ns-impact
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On 6/10/20, 5:42 AM, "OPSEC on behalf of Warren Kumari" <opsec-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of warren@kumari.net> wrote:

    On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 6:18 AM tom petch <ietfa@btconnect.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > ________________________________________
    > From: OPSEC <opsec-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Ron Bonica <rbonica=40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org>
    > Sent: 05 June 2020 16:04
    > To: OPSEC
    > Subject: [OPSEC] Call For Adoption: draft-camwinget-opsec-ns-impact
    >
    > Folks,
    >
    > This email begins a call for adoption on draft-camwinget-opsec-ns-impact<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-camwinget-opsec-ns-impact/>. The call for adoption will end on 6/19/2020.
    >
    > Support
    >
    > I would have liked this to be a TLS document but the fact that it is not makes it even more important that it is adopted.
    
    Actually, that raises an important point -- why is it *not* a TLS
    document? Are we wading into deep waters here? Did TLS object to this
    document, or just show no interest, or say "'tis a fine idea, but too
    operational for here, vaya con dios"?
[NCW] It is the latter, that is, it is more about the operational impacts of network security.  When it was presented at the TLS WG,
It was noted that the draft presented TLS use cases but from an operational perspective and didn't fit with their current charter.
There were suggestions that opsec could be a better fit.
    
    Can this CfA be CCed to the TLS WG so that we get more review?

    
    W
    
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    > Tom Petch
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    -- 
    I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
    idea in the first place.
    This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
    regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
    of pants.
       ---maf
    
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