Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2
Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> Tue, 23 December 2008 19:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2
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Glen Kent wrote: >>> Its experimental. Lets leave it out of the discussion. >> It is real and it is (IMHO) a whole lot better than anything >> else we have -- and I understand at least one implementation >> exists. So we should include it in the discussion. > > Is there any deployment of the same? Is the WG interested in this? Just to be clear here... since the context disappeared some messages back... RFC 2154 is what is being referred to here? Do we have deployments or operational experience to draw on? I note one of the original author's is a routine contributor to this list. > Glen > _______________________________________________ > OPSEC mailing list > OPSEC@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec > _______________________________________________ OPSEC mailing list OPSEC@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec
- [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Joel Jaeggli
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 RJ Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Vishwas Manral
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Vishwas Manral
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Vishwas Manral
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Glen Kent
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Glen Kent
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Vishwas Manral
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson
- [OPSEC] Prospective issue with IPsec ESP-NULL & I… R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Vishwas Manral
- Re: [OPSEC] Prospective issue with IPsec ESP-NULL… Vishwas Manral
- Re: [OPSEC] Prospective issue with IPsec ESP-NULL… R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] Prospective issue with IPsec ESP-NULL… Vishwas Manral
- Re: [OPSEC] Prospective issue with IPsec ESP-NULL… R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Glen Kent
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Glen Kent
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Glen Kent
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Glen Kent
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Vishwas Manral
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] Prospective issue with IPsec ESP-NULL… Vishwas Manral
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Vishwas Manral
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Bhatia, Manav (Manav)
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Bhatia, Manav (Manav)
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Glen Kent
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Glen Kent
- Re: [OPSEC] Prospective issue with IPsec ESP-NULL… Darrel Lewis (darlewis)
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Darrel Lewis (darlewis)
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Bhatia, Manav (Manav)
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Bhatia, Manav (Manav)
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Joel Jaeggli
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 RJ Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 RJ Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Vishwas Manral
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Glen Kent
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Vishwas Manral
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Vishwas Manral
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Joel Jaeggli
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Joel Jaeggli
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 RJ Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Joel Jaeggli
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Vishwas Manral
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Vishwas Manral
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Vishwas Manral
- [OPSEC] FW: minutes part 2 Michael Barnes
- Re: [OPSEC] FW: minutes part 2 Smith, Donald
- Re: [OPSEC] FW: minutes part 2 Michael Barnes
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Vishwas Manral
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Vishwas Manral
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Vishwas Manral
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Vishwas Manral
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 Vishwas Manral
- Re: [OPSEC] minutes part 2 R Atkinson