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[OPSEC] OT: TCP session lifetime - Re: [Tsv-art] game over, EH [Tsvart last call review of draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-06]

Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> Fri, 07 December 2018 22:48 UTC

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Subject: [OPSEC] OT: TCP session lifetime - Re: [Tsv-art] game over, EH [Tsvart last call review of draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-06]
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> On Dec 7, 2018, at 5:44 PM, Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Dec 07, 2018 at 03:46:15PM -0500, Jared Mauch wrote:
>> 1) We have long-lived TCP sessions, measured in years.  (Implied: many
>> of the transport people really prefer stable routes without
>> flapping/jitter/reordering from us)
> 
> <rhetorical>
> I've long wondered why BGP has to be this way and why it still is after
> so many years.
> </rhetorical>

I have seen BGP sessions up for over 7 years on some routers. One can argue if this is a good thing or bad.  It’s quite an interesting thing to see and go “wow, someone forgot about this one …”

- jared

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