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Re: [OPSEC] Adoption call for draft-vyncke-opsec-probe-attribution

Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Thu, 04 August 2022 22:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OPSEC] Adoption call for draft-vyncke-opsec-probe-attribution
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 As I mumbled at the mic, I think that this is a useful document.

It's certainly not a perfect mechanism, but I still believe that it is
worth adopting.

W
(No hats)


On Tue, Aug 2 2022 at 7:21 AM, Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 07:37:08PM -0400, Jen Linkova wrote:
>
> This email starts the adoption call for
> draft-vyncke-opsec-probe-attribution
> (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vyncke-opsec-probe-attribution/)
>
> The adoption call ends on Aug 14th, 23:59 UTC.
>
> Please read the draft and respond to this thread. stating your position
> re: adoption.
>
> I think this is a useful document, so: support adoption.
>
> I had to smile at the sentence "it is expected that only good-willing
> researchers will use these techniques" - maybe require use of RFC3514?
> (seriously: section 6 already contains clear verbiage on "you can not
> trust this").
>
> Gert Doering
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