Re: [OPSEC] Architectural implications of EH / filtering (was: draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering)

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Wed, 12 December 2018 00:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OPSEC] Architectural implications of EH / filtering (was: draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering)
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Hiya,

On 11/12/2018 23:58, Warren Kumari wrote:
> * having some presentations / discussions on "how X works when deployed /
> implementation shortcomings". As an example, at the IEPG meeting in
> Yokohama (IETF94) these was a presentation on "MODERN ROUTER ARCHITECTURE
> FOR PROTOCOL DESIGNERS" -
> http://www.iepg.org/2015-11-01-ietf94/IEPG-RouterArchitecture-jgs.pdf . As
> another example, I was recently informed of a surprising limitation in TLS
> libraries -- these are apparently well known to those who work in this
> space, but I'd certainly never heard of them. I think that we (IETF
> participants in general) sometimes fall into believing that we know how
> technology X works because we've helped design it, but don't necessarily
> know what happens once it escapes our clutches / flies out of the nest.
> * consider having a BoF on this / these topics.
> * perhaps something like a workshop?

Maybe consider moving IEPG to a more prime-time IETF
meeting week slot? (Or any equivalent.) The couple of
times I've gotten to IEPG, I was struck by how it was
higher quality than average IETF presentations. For
me, I always really like finding out about cases where
reality != theory and I bet I'm far from alone.

So, I'd argue a bit against a one-off BoF or workshop
and more for a recurring opportunity for fact-based
detailed presentations.

S.