Re: Three revised Internet Drafts
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To: Christian Huitema <Christian.Huitema@sophia.inria.fr>
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Subject: Re: Three revised Internet Drafts
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 92 13:12:24 -0500
From: valdis@vttcf.cc.vt.edu
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> I just wanted to point our that if the only think that externally > distinguishes the two formats is the separator, then users will be lost, and > will use one for the other. If distinction is what you need, then you should > rather enforce it. Something like <DN: bla, bla, bla> vs <X400: ...>. > > It is easy to explain why X.400 1984 ORNames and X.500 Names look the same. > The idea in 81-82 was that the ORNames would be exactly directory names -- > hence the attribute structure. ADMD and PRMD were latter introduced to > facilitate routing in the absence of directory, but all other standard > attributes were designed to be keys in a local directory. A remainder of this > is the "ambiguous address" non delivery report code: an address cannot be > ambiguous, only a name can! Christian: A fine piece of information that makes a lot of thing clearer to those of us out here on the sidelines. Given that we are already working on a draft for using the X.500 directory to resolve X.400 routing, is it at all possible that we work on re-unifying the two address spaces? Once we get the X.500 directory deployed, the ADMD and PRMD objects can either be buried in the internals, or discarded altogether. Let's face it - we're discussing what is basically a "user interface" issue - internally, it's all going to be ASN.1 and OID values anyhow. And the best user interface (in my opinion, anyhow) would be one in which ONE syntax specified ONE object, and the *SYSTEM* would figure out what was intended based on context. It is simple for the system to determine based on context whether an X.400 or X.500 identifier is called for - I forsee that in general, an X.500 object would be specified, and if it's e-mail, the ADMD and PRDM will be filled in from someplace (probably the directory). First law of interface design: Don't make the user do something that the computer can do better... I of course recognize that re-unification of the X.400 and X.500 address spaces probably has political implications on the same order of magnitude as re-unification of the two Chinas. Oh well... ;) Valdis Kletnieks Computer Systems Engineer Virginia Tech
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- Re: Three revised Internet Drafts Steve Hardcastle-Kille
- Re: Three revised Internet Drafts Sylvain Langlois
- Re: Three revised Internet Drafts Erik Skovgaard
- Re: Three revised Internet Drafts Hans Eriksson
- Re: Three revised Internet Drafts Christian Huitema
- Re: Three revised Internet Drafts Thomas Lenggenhager
- Re: Three revised Internet Drafts Paul-Andre Pays
- Re: Three revised Internet Drafts Steve Hardcastle-Kille
- Re: Three revised Internet Drafts Paul-Andre Pays
- Re: Three revised Internet Drafts Christian Huitema
- Re: Three revised Internet Drafts Steve Hardcastle-Kille
- Re: Three revised Internet Drafts valdis
- Re: Three revised Internet Drafts Paul-Andre Pays
- Re: Three revised Internet Drafts Steve Hardcastle-Kille
- Re: Three revised Internet Drafts Paul-Andre Pays
- Re: Three revised Internet Drafts Steve Hardcastle-Kille