[Fwd: Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Regarding MPR-OSPF]
Richard Ogier <rich.ogier@earthlink.net> Sun, 25 March 2007 02:49 UTC
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Emmanuel, You did not respond to my question regarding your selection of a synch router, which I posted on March 13 and am repeating below. I think my question is valid, so can you please respond? This is important because your simulations assume that you can always select a *single* router to be the synch router, which may not be true in general. As you know, the number of synch routers affects overhead significantly in dense networks. If Emmanuel does not respond, can someone else respond who either agrees or disagrees with me? Richard Emmanuel Baccelli wrote: > To clarify a point which you indicate that you missed concerning the > synch router: the willingness parameter influences a routers > forwarding ability only. If a synch router is outside the MANET, then > according to the I-D there exists a hybrid router which will > synchronise with its whole neighbourhood, thus fulfilling the synch role. Emmanuel, There still seems to be a problem when a router has multiple MANET interfaces. You define a hybrid router as follows. Hybrid router - a router which has OSPF interfaces of several types, including the MANET type. So a router with only MANET interfaces is not a hybrid router. Consider a router A that has only one MANET interface, but has only 1-hop neighbors and no 2-hop neighbors on this interface. (I.e., Hellos received from neighbors on this interface advertise only routers that are neighbors of router A itself.) As a result, router A has no MPRs. Assume it also has no MPR selectors. A ----- B ===== C Now suppose router A has a neighbor B which has two MANET interfaces, one of which connects it to router A, and the other of which connects it to router C, which is not a neighbor of A. Assume router C has the largest RID and is therefore the synch router. Therefore, since router A is not a synch router (nor a neighbor of a synch router) and has no MPRs or MPR selectors, it has no adjacencies! Therefore, it still looks like you need to select a synch router for each MANET interface, or redefine a hybrid router to include routers with multiple MANET interfaces. Am I missing something? Richard _______________________________________________ Ospf-manet mailing list Ospf-manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf-manet _______________________________________________ Ospf-manet mailing list Ospf-manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf-manet
- [Ospf-manet] Re: Regarding MPR-OSPF Richard Ogier
- Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Regarding MPR-OSPF Emmanuel Baccelli
- Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Regarding MPR-OSPF Richard Ogier
- Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Regarding MPR-OSPF Richard Ogier
- [Fwd: Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Regarding MPR-OSPF] Richard Ogier
- Re: [Fwd: Re: [Ospf-manet] Re: Regarding MPR-OSPF] Emmanuel Baccelli