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Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "Using Operator-defined TLVs for Agile Service Deployment"

Peter Psenak <ppsenak@cisco.com> Thu, 17 March 2016 07:18 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "Using Operator-defined TLVs for Agile Service Deployment"
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I agree with Les and share the same concerns.

Peter

On 3/17/16 05:40 , Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) wrote:
> My opinion of the draft has not changed.
>
> It is defining a way to utilize OSPF to send application information - which is not something the protocol should be used to do.
> Further, it leaves definition of the new codepoints and formats of the information advertised completely unspecified - the latest draft revision states:
>
> " The meaning of the operator-defined sub-TLV is totally opaque to OSPF
>     and is defined by the network local policy and is controlled via
>     configuration.  "
>
> How interoperability is achieved is not addressed at all.
>
> IS-IS has taken a much more stringent approach to a similar request. 	
> RFC 6823 (GENAPP) requires that information sent in the generic container TLV MUST be based on a public specification - and that an application specific ID for the application using this mechanism be assigned by IANA. This addresses the interoperability issue.
> GENAPP further specifies that such information SHOULD be advertised by a separate instance of the routing protocol (as specified in RFC 6822(MI)) so as to minimize the impact of the application information flooding on the performance of the routing protocol.
>
> Without addressing both of these issues I cannot support the draft.
>
>     Les
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: OSPF [mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Acee Lindem
>> (acee)
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 7:09 PM
>> To: OSPF WG List
>> Subject: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "Using Operator-defined TLVs for Agile
>> Service Deployment"
>>
>> We’ve discussed this draft a number of times. In my opinion, it seems like a
>> useful mechanism if one envisions a generalized API between OSPF and user
>> and third-party applications to convey application-specific information
>> learned from other OSPF routers. In many respects, this has already been
>> envisioned for OSPF Node Tags. Please indicate your opinion on this draft
>> before March 31st, 2016.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Acee
>>
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