Re: [OSPF] [Bier] WGLC: draft-ietf-bier-ospf-bier-extensions-05

"Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> Sun, 18 June 2017 18:40 UTC

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From: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [OSPF] [Bier] WGLC: draft-ietf-bier-ospf-bier-extensions-05
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Hi Greg, Authors,

I support publication. Also, I have two comments.

   1. It is somewhat strange to make protocol drafts standards track while the architecture and encapsulations are experimental.
   2. The OSPF encoding will not support the second example in https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-bier-mpls-encapsulation-07.txt. In this example, the BSL 256 and 512 are intermixed. While with the encoding, they would need to be two separate ranges of labels.

I also have some editorial comments but I’ll just pass them to the authors.

Thanks,
Acee

From: BIER <bier-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:bier-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf of Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com<mailto:gjshep@gmail.com>>
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Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 5:34 PM
To: "bier@ietf.org<mailto:bier@ietf.org>" <bier@ietf.org<mailto:bier@ietf.org>>, OSPF WG List <ospf@ietf.org<mailto:ospf@ietf.org>>
Subject: [Bier] WGLC: draft-ietf-bier-ospf-bier-extensions-05

BIER, OSPF

At BIER WG meeting, IETF97 in Chicago, we decided to move forward to WGLC for some of our docs. We learned that even once published the IESG has a process to change the track of the RFC if the WG makes the case to move the work from Informational to Standards track. The feedback from operators is that RFC status was more important than track, and we won't be able to meet our charter requirements to change track without deployment experience and operator support.

This email starts a two week timer for feedback on the draft:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bier-ospf-bier-extensions/

WGLC to run in parallel in both BIER and OSPF WGs due to the scope of the work.

Thanks,
Greg
(BIER Chairs)