Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3
Alex Zinin <zinin@PSG.COM> Sat, 12 October 2002 01:10 UTC
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Subject: Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3
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Thursday, October 10, 2002, 11:54:23 AM, Kireeti Kompella wrote: > Thanks for your support, Venkata! > One thing I would like to reiterate: there are a *small* number of > currently defined Opaque LSAs -- TE, Grace LSA, and perhaps one more. > If we analyse the applicability of those LSAs to OSPF v3, and mandate > that any future definition of an OSPFv2 Opaque LSA MUST have a similar > analysis, that seems to me to address the "backdoor" problem. > The "backdoor" issue is an excellent example of a *theoretical* > problem that has little *practical* relevance, given the above mandate. It's an excellent example of the type of hidden problems that ADs have to think about and that to them has a very practical relevance. > As a consequence, we have at least two independent efforts to migrate > just the TE document to v3, when in fact it should be really simple. > Then we do it again for Grace LSAs. And possibly again in the future. OSPFv3- and IPv6-related issues should be considered and specified for each feature independently, because OSPFv? are not just two versions of a transport mechanism, they are two different routing protocols providing connectivity for different types of environment. > And then we hear that the IETF is overloaded, and the IESG overburdened. > Oh, well ... Thanks for thinking about the IESG. I can assure you that it will be much less controversial (and hence faster) for the IESG to deal with drafts explicitly specifying IPv6/OSPFv3 considerations for specific features, than it will be to waste time arguing about a draft that collectively migrates all present and future OSPFv2-based features and "applications" to the IPv6/OSPFv3 environment. Alex
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- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Alex Zinin
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Kireeti Kompella
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Kunihiro Ishiguro
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Kireeti Kompella
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Acee Lindem
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Kunihiro Ishiguro
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Kireeti Kompella
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- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Acee Lindem
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Acee Lindem
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Kireeti Kompella
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Kunihiro Ishiguro
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Kireeti Kompella
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Kunihiro Ishiguro
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Kireeti Kompella
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Kireeti Kompella
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Manral, Vishwas
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Acee Lindem
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Manral, Vishwas
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Kireeti Kompella
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Alex Zinin
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Kireeti Kompella
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Alex Zinin
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Kunihiro Ishiguro
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Padma Pillay-Esnault
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Kireeti Kompella
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Manral, Vishwas
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Manral, Vishwas
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- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Kunihiro Ishiguro
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- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Kunihiro Ishiguro
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- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Kireeti Kompella
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Alex Zinin
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Alex Zinin
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- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Manral, Vishwas
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Alex Zinin
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Alex Zinin
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Bill Fenner
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Acee Lindem
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Sina Mirtorabi
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Dennis Ferguson
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Tony Przygienda
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Sina Mirtorabi
- Re: OSPFv2 Opaque LSAs in OSPFv3 Erblichs