Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensions for Local Interface ID Advertisement"
prz <prz@zeta2.ch> Fri, 05 May 2017 15:09 UTC
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Subject: Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensions for Local Interface ID Advertisement"
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Not sure it made it from my other address so rtx to the list ... A conditional against here ... I am fine with adoption if I see a version that spells the detailed behavior and especially interactions between RFC4302 and this draft in a detailed section, i.e. both on, RFC4302 gets configured/unconfigured, are the LLS extensions advertised on every hello or just until a specific state (like ISIS padding thingies) and so on ... I'd rather have this now than a LC discussion ... The idea is deceptively simple but it is a redundant mechanism and those always end causing inter-op problems unless cleanly spelled out ... --- tony On Thu, 4 May 2017 20:27:27 +0000, "Acee Lindem (acee)" wrote: Speaking as a WG member: I believe we should move forward with this simple mechanism for OSPFv2 neighbors to learn each other's interface ID. Both IS-IS and, more importantly, OSPFv3 learn the interface ID via their respective hello mechanisms. Just because one implementation has repurposed the Generalized MPL (GMPL) extensions described in RFC 4302 for interface ID learning is not a reason to preclude using the more generally accepted IGP Hello packet learning. Additionally, there is the undesirable side effect of TE LSAs resulting in inclusion in the TE topology for multiple implementations. Finally, when the right technical direction is clear and there is rough consensus, the OSPF WG MUST NOT be obstructed. Thanks, Acee From: Acee Lindem Date: Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 2:45 PM To: OSPF WG List Subject: WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensions for Local Interface ID Advertisement" This draft was presented in Chicago and there was acknowledgment that a solution was needed. The authors have asked for WG adoption and we are now doing a WG adoption poll. Please indicate your support or objection by May 20th, 2017. Thanks, Acee Links: ------ [1] mailto:acee@cisco.com [2] mailto:ospf@ietf.org
- [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensions … Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Yingzhen Qu
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Huaimo Chen
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Veerendranatha Reddy Vallem
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Shraddha Hegde
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Peter Psenak
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Dirk Goethals
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Ketan Talaulikar Talaulikar (ketant)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… prz
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Uma Chunduri
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Padmadevi Pillay Esnault
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Russ White
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… prz
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Anton Smirnov
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… prz
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… prz
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… prz
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… prz
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Peter Psenak
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… prz
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Peter Psenak
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… prz
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Peter Psenak
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Julien Meuric
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Peter Psenak
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Julien Meuric
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Olivier Dugeon
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Peter Psenak
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Peter Psenak
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Olivier Dugeon
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Peter Psenak