Re: [OSPF] OSPF GR and BFD operability

"Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com> Tue, 25 August 2015 16:29 UTC

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From: "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com>
To: Anil Raj <anilraj85@gmail.com>
Thread-Topic: [OSPF] OSPF GR and BFD operability
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Subject: Re: [OSPF] OSPF GR and BFD operability
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Anil –

IF BFD does NOT share fate w the Control plane then what you say is true.

If BFD shares fate w the control plane then the behavior depends on the neighbor knowing that a restart is in progress. If neighbor knows this then the BFD down event can be ignored w minimal risk – otherwise you need to treat it as a real failure.

   Les


From: Anil Raj [mailto:anilraj85@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 8:51 AM
To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Cc: Acee Lindem (acee); OSPF WG List
Subject: Re: [OSPF] OSPF GR and BFD operability

Thanks Acess, Les.

So ideally it is recommended to tear down OSPF adjacency and signal topology change, and thus honor BFD notification in this case.

Regards,
Anil

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <ginsberg@cisco.com<mailto:ginsberg@cisco.com>> wrote:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5882.txt Section 4.3<https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5882.txt%20Section%204.3> is relevant here.

   Les


From: OSPF [mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org>] On Behalf Of Acee Lindem (acee)
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 7:54 AM
To: Anil Raj; OSPF WG List
Subject: Re: [OSPF] OSPF GR and BFD operability

Hi Anil,

OSPF and OSPFv3 graceful restart pre-dated BFD so this wasn’t explicitly covered. However, given that the intension is that the data plane is preserved during restart, an implementation could interpret this as a topology change and terminate helper mode as documented in section 3.2 of RFC 3623.
Hope this helps,
Acee



From: OSPF <ospf-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf of Anil Raj <anilraj85@gmail.com<mailto:anilraj85@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 10:19 AM
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Subject: [OSPF] OSPF GR and BFD operability

Hi,

I need clarification on the behavior when BFD notifies remote inactivity for a OSPF session, when OSPF neighbor is undergoing Graceful restart? OSPF router in helper mode will ideally inactivate the restarting neighbor only after grace period, and if BFD notifies neighbor down to OSPF, should the adjacency be terminated? If not, will it cause a blackhole for the entire grace period if the neighbor is actually down?

Appreciate if you can help here.

Regards,
Anil