Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-link-overload-01
"Anil Kumar S N (VRP Network BL)" <anil.sn@huawei.com> Mon, 05 October 2015 14:18 UTC
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From: "Anil Kumar S N (VRP Network BL)" <anil.sn@huawei.com>
To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com>, Pushpasis Sarkar <psarkar@juniper.net>, "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com>, Shraddha Hegde <shraddha@juniper.net>
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Subject: Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-link-overload-01
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Acee, In My implementation, I sort all the connecting link paths. I choose best link cost available, if not then I will use last resort max cost Link path. Anyways this draft is complimenting your case :) A---B Lets say A is a P node and B is a Q node where B is under maintaince, makes B to a Link as Max Metric. Now you will still be using link A--B as A to B link cost is not updated. This draft insists A to update its cost to Max metric, Which will force you to choose different link. Thanks & Regards Anil S N “Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send” - Jon Postel > -----Original Message----- > From: Acee Lindem (acee) [mailto:acee@cisco.com] > Sent: 05 October 2015 19:18 > To: Anil Kumar S N (VRP Network BL); Pushpasis Sarkar; Les Ginsberg > (ginsberg); Shraddha Hegde > Cc: Hannes Gredler; OSPF WG List; Mohan Nanduri; Jalil, Luay > Subject: Re: OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-link-overload-01 > > Anil, > > On 9/30/15, 1:25 AM, "Anil Kumar S N (VRP Network BL)" > <anil.sn@huawei.com> wrote: > > >Hi All, > > > >In support of the draft : draft-hegde-ospf-link-overload-01 Draft > makes > >sense in below scenario I suppose, I could be wrong. > > > >Case where Router detectes some fault in link, would like to advertize > >link as unusable for a while. > > > >If any router using TI-LFA for FRR might be using this link for > >stiching P & Q-nodes. > >Link Overload sub TLV might help LFA clacualting node to use some > other > >link for that period of time. > > It is already advertised at max-metric, for LFA/RLFA my implementation > (Ericsson) avoided using max-metric links… > > Acee > > > > > >Possibly router under maintainence could be refresh router LSA with > out > >this link, Backward link check fails and link under maintaince will > not > >be used. I think this would be treated as topology change which is not > >the case. > > > >I feel Overloading Node and Link are done for short period of time and > >might come handy while debugging/isolating network issues. > > > >Thanks & Regards > >Anil S N > > > >"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send" - > >Jon Postel > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: OSPF [mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Pushpasis > >> Sarkar > >> Sent: 30 September 2015 10:28 > >> To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); Shraddha Hegde; Acee Lindem (acee) > >> Cc: Hannes Gredler; OSPF WG List; Mohan Nanduri; Jalil, Luay > >> Subject: Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-link- > >> overload-01 > >> > >> Hi Les, > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 9/30/15, 9:45 AM, "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >><Shraddha>As I indicated before, max-metric can work in most > common > >> >>scenarios but not all. There could be cases where an alternate > path > >> >>cannot be found Satisfying the constraints so LSP remains on the > >> >>link undergoing maintenance since the link is still a last resort > link. > >> > > >> >[Les:] Which seems to me to be exactly the definition of link of > >> >last > >> resort i.e. in the absence of any other alternative use the link > >> undergoing maintenance. > >> >?? > >> [Pushpasis] What if the operator does not want any traffic on those > >> links at all? Should not there be a way to ensure that as well? > >> > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> OSPF mailing list > >> OSPF@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf
- [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-link… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Shraddha Hegde
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Shraddha Hegde
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Pushpasis Sarkar
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Pushpasis Sarkar
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Pushpasis Sarkar
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Shraddha Hegde
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Shraddha Hegde
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Pushpasis Sarkar
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Anil Kumar S N (VRP Network BL)
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Anil Kumar S N (VRP Network BL)
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Uma Chunduri
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Pushpasis Sarkar
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Pushpasis Sarkar
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Shraddha Hegde
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Shraddha Hegde
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Manav Bhatia
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Shraddha Hegde
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Shraddha Hegde
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Pushpasis Sarkar
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- [OSPF] FW: OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Shraddha Hegde
- Re: [OSPF] FW: OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-o… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] OSPF Link Overload - draft-hegde-ospf-… Ahmed Bashandy (bashandy)