Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensions for Local Interface ID Advertisement"
prz <prz@zeta2.ch> Sat, 06 May 2017 16:58 UTC
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Subject: Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensions for Local Interface ID Advertisement"
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Hey Acee, 1. looking fwd to read the revision with backwards compatibility section and definition which Hello FSM states the extension applies to 2. I try to read what you say carefully but please clarify: there's nothing in rfc5613 that prevents LLC on any link so do you mean, you suggest to use this TLV on unnumbered links _only_? Or do you suggest that RFC3630 implies somehow that LS TE LSAs are used on unnumbered links _only_? If so, I don't see anything in the RFC to this effect ... --- tony On Fri, 5 May 2017 15:14:30 +0000, "Acee Lindem (acee)" wrote: Hi Tony, The authors will cover this in the next revision. Based on discussions, the usage of link-scoped TE LSAs is limited to unnumbered point-to-point links. If this is the case, the backward compatibility is much simpler than the other discussions we've been having. Thanks, Acee From: prz Date: Friday, May 5, 2017 at 11:09 AM To: Acee Lindem Cc: OSPF WG List Subject: Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensions for Local Interface ID Advertisement" Not sure it made it from my other address so rtx to the list ... A conditional against here ... I am fine with adoption if I see a version that spells the detailed behavior and especially interactions between RFC4302 and this draft in a detailed section, i.e. both on, RFC4302 gets configured/unconfigured, are the LLS extensions advertised on every hello or just until a specific state (like ISIS padding thingies) and so on ... I'd rather have this now than a LC discussion ... The idea is deceptively simple but it is a redundant mechanism and those always end causing inter-op problems unless cleanly spelled out ... --- tony Links: ------ [1] mailto:prz@zeta2.ch [2] mailto:acee@cisco.com [3] mailto:ospf@ietf.org
- [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensions … Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Yingzhen Qu
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Huaimo Chen
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Veerendranatha Reddy Vallem
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Shraddha Hegde
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Peter Psenak
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Dirk Goethals
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Ketan Talaulikar Talaulikar (ketant)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… prz
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Uma Chunduri
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Padmadevi Pillay Esnault
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Russ White
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… prz
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Anton Smirnov
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… prz
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… prz
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… prz
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… prz
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Peter Psenak
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… prz
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Peter Psenak
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… prz
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Peter Psenak
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Julien Meuric
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Peter Psenak
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Julien Meuric
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Olivier Dugeon
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Peter Psenak
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Peter Psenak
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Olivier Dugeon
- Re: [OSPF] WG Adoption Poll for "OSPF LLS Extensi… Peter Psenak