AW: Zero as ospfIfRetransInterval
Schrodi Karl <karl.schrodi@SIEMENS.COM> Thu, 26 June 2003 08:15 UTC
Received: from cherry.ease.lsoft.com (cherry.ease.lsoft.com [209.119.0.109]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA11790 for <ospf-archive@LISTS.IETF.ORG>; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 04:15:39 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from PEAR.EASE.LSOFT.COM (209.119.0.19) by cherry.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id <4.00A339CE@cherry.ease.lsoft.com>; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 4:13:48 -0400
Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM by PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8e) with spool id 46684652 for OSPF@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 04:13:38 -0400
Received: from 194.138.158.18 by WALNUT.EASE.LSOFT.COM (SMTPL release 1.0i) with TCP; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 04:03:38 -0400
Received: from blues.mchh.siemens.de ([139.21.204.206]) by gorilla.mchh.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25877 for <OSPF@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM>; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:03:36 +0200 (MET DST)
Received: from mchh248e.mchh.siemens.de (mchh248e.mchh.siemens.de [139.21.200.58]) by blues.mchh.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA01019 for <OSPF@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM>; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:02:35 +0200 (MET DST)
Received: by mchh248e.mchh.siemens.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <NTWNRPFP>; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:03:06 +0200
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-ID: <47D260E84215734F81779E8A50BE9B376560BC@mchh2a4e.mchh.siemens.de>
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:03:05 +0200
Reply-To: Mailing List <OSPF@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sender: Mailing List <OSPF@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
From: Schrodi Karl <karl.schrodi@SIEMENS.COM>
Subject: AW: Zero as ospfIfRetransInterval
To: OSPF@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Precedence: list
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Acee, I fully understand that retransmission is mandatory - but does it really make sense to have a retransmission interval of zero? Wouldn´t it be like some kind of a DoS attack against yourself and your neighbour(s)? Well, probably nobody reasonably will set this interval to zero - but ... I would prefer something like the previous proposal of Vishwas, i.e. putting a limitation in the object description in the MIB. Regards Karl -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Acee Lindem [mailto:acee@REDBACK.COM] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. Juni 2003 19:03 An: OSPF@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM Betreff: Re: Zero as ospfIfRetransInterval Eric Gray wrote: > Acee, > > Why would it be wrong to set a retransmit interval to zero? Usually, > setting a retransmit interval to zero would have the special meaning that > retransmission does not occur (i.e. - the interval is infinite). Is that not > an intended meaning in this case? Nope - not retransmitting would make the flooding unreliable and would violate the base protocol specification (RFC 2328). > > Acee Lindem wrote: > > >>Manral, Vishwas wrote: >> >>>Hi Acee, >>> >>>If we do not intend to define new variables, we may want to at least put the >>>limitation of 0, in the object description in the MIB. >> >>Hi Vishwas, >> >>That sounds like a good idea since any implementation that allows >>write access to set the variables to 0 is broken. >> >>Thanks, >>Acee >> >> >>>Thanks, >>>Vishwas >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Acee Lindem [mailto:acee@REDBACK.COM] >>>Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 18:16 >>>To: OSPF@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM >>>Subject: Re: Zero as ospfIfRetransInterval >>> >>> >>>Hi Dan, >>> >>>Daniel Joyal wrote: >>> >>> >>>>You're not allowed to change the syntax unless >>>>it's equivalent to the old syntax. >>> >>> >>>Even if the old syntax doesn't match the protocol >>>specification? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>So in this >>>>case, we would need to deprecate/obsolete. >>> >>> >>>Then I don't think it is worth defining >>>new MIB variables given that ospfIfTransitDelay, >>>ospfIfRetransInterval, ospfVirtIfTransitDelay, and >>>ospfVirtIfRetransInterval have served us thus far. >>> >>>Other opinions are welcome. >>> >>>Thanks, >>>Acee >>> >>> >>> >>>>-Dan >>>> >>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: Acee Lindem [mailto:acee@redback.com] >>>>>Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:35 PM >>>>>To: Mailing List; Joyal, Daniel [BL60:NP30:EXCH] >>>>>Subject: Re: Zero as ospfIfRetransInterval >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Igor Miroshnik wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>All, >>>>>> >>>>>>Can anybody clarify the physical sense of assigning >>>>>>ospfIfRetransInterval to zero? RFC1850 allows such an assignment. >>>>> >>>>>I believe UpToMaxAge should range from 1..3600 rather than 0..3600. >>>>> >>>>>Dan - can we change this in the MIB update without >>>>>deprecating variables? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Thanks >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>Acee >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>>-- >>>Acee >>> >> >>-- >>Acee > > > > -- Acee
- AW: Zero as ospfIfRetransInterval Schrodi Karl