Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter
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Subject: Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter
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Dear honored colleagues, I think "LETBET" is nice to remember, but is my opinion very dangerous. The part of "BET" in the name recalls me some associations with auctions and bandwidth broker systems (see RFC 2638). I think TANA should and will distinguish itself from previous work. Therefore, I would be in favor of another name. Best Regards Kurt Am 22.10.2008 um 09:53 schrieb Michael Welzl: > I agree 100%, about both - charter and LETBET (which is my > favorite name proposal) > > Cheers, > Michael > > > On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 10:10 +0300, Salvatore Loreto wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I also think the charter is very well scoped. >> >> However I'd like to see the *multiple connections* work item >> elaborated >> and explained a little bit more! >> >> about the name proposal both "LETBET (LEss Than Best Effort >> Transport)" and >> "Scavenger Network Congestion Protocols" sound good proposal to me. >> >> /sal >> >> Michael Menth wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I also find the charter good and like Ingemar's name proposal >>> "LETBET >>> (LEss Than Best Effort Transport)" >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> Ingemar Johansson S wrote: >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> Even though I understand that it is better to focus on the >>>> charter than >>>> in the name I too beleieve that TANA does not say much. >>>> >>>> I believe that somewhere along the track and also in the charter >>>> the >>>> term "less than best effort transmission" was/is mentioned >>>> A possible name would then be >>>> LETBET (LEss Than Best Effort Transport) >>>> >>>> That said... there are a whole bunch of WG names out there that >>>> at first >>>> glance does not say anything about the group. >>>> The charter looks OK from my perspective. >>>> >>>> /Ingemar >>>> >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: tsv-area-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tsv-area-bounces@ietf.org] >>>>> On Behalf Of Ted Faber >>>>> Sent: den 21 oktober 2008 18:51 >>>>> To: Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-RCN0)[VZ] >>>>> Cc: TSV Area; tana@ietf.org; p2pi@ietf.org >>>>> Subject: Re: [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 09:12:10AM -0500, Eddy, Wesley M. >>>>> (GRC-RCN0)[VZ] wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> But if nobody else has a problem with the TANA name, I'll keep my >>>>>> mouth shut so we don't waste time and energy. There are >>>>> bigger fish to fry! >>>>> >>>>> It should change. >>>>> >>>>> I care about congestion control and nothing in the expansion of >>>>> TANA >>>>> indicated it was about congestion (to me). >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Ted Faber >>>>> http://www.isi.edu/~faber PGP: >>>>> http://www.isi.edu/~faber/pubkeys.asc >>>>> Unexpected attachment on this mail? See >>>>> http://www.isi.edu/~faber/FAQ.html#SIG >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> tana mailing list >>>> tana@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tana >>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> tana mailing list >> tana@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tana >> > > _______________________________________________ > tana mailing list > tana@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tana > --- Prof. Dr. Kurt Tutschku Chair of Future Communication (Endowed by Telekom Austria) Institute of Distributed and Multimedia Systems, Faculty of Computer Science University of Vienna, Universitaetsstrasse 10/T11, 1090 Wien, Austria. Tel: +43/1/4277-39611 mailto:kurt.tutschku@univie.ac.at or mailto:kurttutschku@gmail.com _______________________________________________ p2pi mailing list p2pi@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2pi
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Stanislav Shalunov
- [p2pi] TANA proposed charter Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Lars Eggert
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Bruce Davie
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Joe Touch
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Joe Touch
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Salman Abdul Baset
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Lars Eggert
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-RCN0)[VZ]
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Murari Sridharan
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Ted Faber
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Ted Faber
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Caitlin Bestler
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Ted Faber
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Das, Saumitra
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] [tana] TANA proposed charter Das, Saumitra
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Rolf Winter
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Laird Popkin
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Rolf Winter
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Rolf Winter
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Kurt Tutschku
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter toby.moncaster
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Ingemar Johansson S
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Michael Menth
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Michael Welzl
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Roland Bless
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Roland Bless
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] TANA proposed charter Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] TANA proposed charter Laird Popkin
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] TANA proposed charter Enrico Marocco
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Rolf Winter
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] TANA proposed charter toby.moncaster
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter toby.moncaster
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter toby.moncaster
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Mark Allman
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Bryan Ford
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] TANA proposed charter Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Narayanan, Vidya
- [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet marking qu… John Leslie
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… John Leslie
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter Livingood, Jason
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… Laird Popkin
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] TANA proposed charter -- packet… Woundy, Richard
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… Robb Topolski
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… Bruce Davie
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Robb Topolski