Re: [p2pi] discussing P2PI-related standardization in Dublin

Richard Bennett <richard@bennett.com> Sat, 14 June 2008 00:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [p2pi] discussing P2PI-related standardization in Dublin
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Do we have a date for the proposed BOF in Dublin?

RB

Lars Eggert wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 2008-6-6, at 17:40, ext Lars Eggert wrote:
>   
>> related to the work item below, I've just heard that some folks had  
>> already been discussing the submission of a more targeted BOF  
>> proposal. Depending on the details of that proposal (which I haven't  
>> seen yet), work item (3) might be subsumed by it.
>>     
>
> this BOF proposal has now materialized in form of ALTO (http://alto.tilab.com/ 
> ), a BOF proposal targeted at APP and RAI.
>
> It's hence somewhat likely that we may have a TANA BOF in TSV that  
> focuses on the work items (1) and (2) from my original email, and a  
> second ALTO BOF hosted by APP and RAI.
>
> (Note: this email is *not* an IESG approval of either the TANA or ALTO  
> BOF - those will come from the responsible ADs if and when they come.)
>
> ALTO is currently scoped a bit more broadly than the TANA work item  
> (3) was, and some of the broader proposals in the ALTO space could  
> lead to significant transport issues. A fraction of the ALTO  
> proponents argues to exchange information related to end-to-end  
> performance (bandwidth, RTT, congestion, transfer time estimates,  
> etc.) through the oracle, for example.
>
> I'd like to ask transport folks to participate in the discussion on  
> ALTO on the p2pi@ietf.org mailing list, in order to discuss the  
> transport implications of the various ALTO ideas.
>
>   
>> On 2008-6-6, at 15:58, Lars Eggert wrote:
>>     
>>> (3) A mechanism that lets an application that can
>>>   transfer data from or to several potential peers (i.e.,
>>>   servers, caches, end systems) select a subset of peers
>>>   for efficient transmission in a way that is aligned with
>>>   the dynamic interconnection structure of the network
>>>   operators that provide connectivity to those peers.
>>>   Application designers, network equipment vendors and
>>>   network operators will need to collaborate on this work
>>>   item to define what kinds of dynamic interconnection
>>>   information is useful to applications, how to obtain it,
>>>   and how to provide it to applications, resulting in a
>>>   generic mechanism that is broadly applicable to many
>>>   current and future applications. This work item has
>>>   obvious interactions with the IETF's Application, Routing
>>>   and Operations areas. In order to make this effort more
>>>   manageable, it may make sense to work out the
>>>   requirements for such a solution first, before discussing
>>>   individual proposals or breaking up the work into pieces
>>>   for specification in different areas or WGs.
>>>       
>
> Lars
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Richard Bennett

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