Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter
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Subject: Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter
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Yes, that seems a much better name. Also really memorable which helps. I think it can be traced back to Marshall Eubanks. As you say flow sounds a bit limiting and so does file. On the other hand it bears its meaning on its face so quibbles about what the FF stands for are probably just distractions... Toby > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryan Ford [mailto:baford@mpi-sws.org] > Sent: 23 October 2008 13:55 > To: Moncaster,T,Toby,CXR9 R > Cc: ingemar.s.johansson@ericsson.com; faber@ISI.EDU; > Wesley.M.Eddy@nasa.gov; tsv-area@ietf.org; tana@ietf.org; p2pi@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [tana] [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter > > On Oct 23, 2008, at 12:41 PM, <toby.moncaster@bt.com> > <toby.moncaster@bt.com > > wrote: > > LETBET doesn't seem to me quite right. It seems to imply the WG would > > only work on a very limited subset of work from its charter. > > > > Having said that I can't think off-hand of a name that does sum > things > > up. Was playing round with NASTY (network-aware scavenger transport) > > but > > that has the same problem as the above. I would love to fit it to > > something like YIELD or GIVEWAY that sums up the idea in its acronym. > > I personally liked the suggestion someone else made earlier of "BACK- > OFF" - meaning "Background Congestion Kontrol of File Flows" or > something like that, wasn't it...? (Maybe we could come up with an > alternate word for the second 'F' that doesn't make it sound so > narrowly scoped.) > > Bryan > > > > > > > Toby > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: p2pi-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:p2pi-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > > Of > >> Ingemar Johansson S > >> Sent: 22 October 2008 06:49 > >> To: Ted Faber; Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-RCN0)[VZ] > >> Cc: p2pi@ietf.org; tana@ietf.org; TSV Area > >> Subject: Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> Even though I understand that it is better to focus on the charter > > than > >> in the name I too beleieve that TANA does not say much. > >> > >> I believe that somewhere along the track and also in the charter the > >> term "less than best effort transmission" was/is mentioned > >> A possible name would then be > >> > >> LETBET (LEss Than Best Effort Transport) > >> > >> That said... there are a whole bunch of WG names out there that at > >> first > >> glance does not say anything about the group. > >> > >> The charter looks OK from my perspective. > >> > >> /Ingemar > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: tsv-area-bounces@ietf.org > >>> [mailto:tsv-area-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ted Faber > >>> Sent: den 21 oktober 2008 18:51 > >>> To: Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-RCN0)[VZ] > >>> Cc: TSV Area; tana@ietf.org; p2pi@ietf.org > >>> Subject: Re: [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter > >>> > >>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 09:12:10AM -0500, Eddy, Wesley M. > >>> (GRC-RCN0)[VZ] wrote: > >>>> But if nobody else has a problem with the TANA name, I'll keep my > >>>> mouth shut so we don't waste time and energy. There are > >>> bigger fish to fry! > >>> > >>> It should change. > >>> > >>> I care about congestion control and nothing in the expansion > >>> of TANA indicated it was about congestion (to me). > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Ted Faber > >>> http://www.isi.edu/~faber PGP: > >>> http://www.isi.edu/~faber/pubkeys.asc > >>> Unexpected attachment on this mail? See > >>> http://www.isi.edu/~faber/FAQ.html#SIG > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> p2pi mailing list > >> p2pi@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2pi > > _______________________________________________ > > tana mailing list > > tana@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tana _______________________________________________ p2pi mailing list p2pi@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2pi
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- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Lars Eggert
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Bruce Davie
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Joe Touch
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Joe Touch
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Salman Abdul Baset
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Lars Eggert
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-RCN0)[VZ]
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Murari Sridharan
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Ted Faber
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Ted Faber
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Caitlin Bestler
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Ted Faber
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Das, Saumitra
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] [tana] TANA proposed charter Das, Saumitra
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Rolf Winter
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Laird Popkin
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Rolf Winter
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Rolf Winter
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Kurt Tutschku
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter toby.moncaster
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Ingemar Johansson S
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Michael Menth
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Michael Welzl
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Roland Bless
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Roland Bless
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] TANA proposed charter Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] TANA proposed charter Laird Popkin
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] TANA proposed charter Enrico Marocco
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Rolf Winter
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] TANA proposed charter toby.moncaster
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter toby.moncaster
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter toby.moncaster
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Mark Allman
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Bryan Ford
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] TANA proposed charter Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Narayanan, Vidya
- [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet marking qu… John Leslie
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… John Leslie
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter Livingood, Jason
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… Laird Popkin
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] TANA proposed charter -- packet… Woundy, Richard
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… Robb Topolski
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… Bruce Davie
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Robb Topolski