Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter
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From: "Narayanan, Vidya" <vidyan@qualcomm.com>
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I do like BACKOFF as well. I think "File" captures what we are doing here quite well - it doesn't look like we are dealing with all kinds of large data - as I said in one of my earlier emails, video fits the large data bill, but, it doesn't look like we would consider that as part of this work. In fact, it would benefit to have the charter explicitly call out that this is meant for large data that can be modeled as file downloads or something to that effect. Vidya > -----Original Message----- > From: tana-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tana-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of toby.moncaster@bt.com > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 6:53 AM > To: baford@mpi-sws.org > Cc: p2pi@ietf.org; tana@ietf.org; tsv-area@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [tana] [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter > > Yes, that seems a much better name. Also really memorable > which helps. I think it can be traced back to Marshall > Eubanks. As you say flow sounds a bit limiting and so does > file. On the other hand it bears its meaning on its face so > quibbles about what the FF stands for are probably just > distractions... > > Toby > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bryan Ford [mailto:baford@mpi-sws.org] > > Sent: 23 October 2008 13:55 > > To: Moncaster,T,Toby,CXR9 R > > Cc: ingemar.s.johansson@ericsson.com; faber@ISI.EDU; > > Wesley.M.Eddy@nasa.gov; tsv-area@ietf.org; tana@ietf.org; > p2pi@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [tana] [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter > > > > On Oct 23, 2008, at 12:41 PM, <toby.moncaster@bt.com> > > <toby.moncaster@bt.com > wrote: > > > LETBET doesn't seem to me quite right. It seems to imply the WG > would > > > only work on a very limited subset of work from its charter. > > > > > > Having said that I can't think off-hand of a name that does sum > > things > > > up. Was playing round with NASTY (network-aware scavenger > transport) > > > but that has the same problem as the above. I would love > to fit it > > > to something like YIELD or GIVEWAY that sums up the idea in its > acronym. > > > > I personally liked the suggestion someone else made earlier > of "BACK- > > OFF" - meaning "Background Congestion Kontrol of File Flows" or > > something like that, wasn't it...? (Maybe we could come up with an > > alternate word for the second 'F' that doesn't make it sound so > > narrowly scoped.) > > > > Bryan > > > > > > > > > > > Toby > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: p2pi-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:p2pi-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf > > > Of > > >> Ingemar Johansson S > > >> Sent: 22 October 2008 06:49 > > >> To: Ted Faber; Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-RCN0)[VZ] > > >> Cc: p2pi@ietf.org; tana@ietf.org; TSV Area > > >> Subject: Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter > > >> > > >> Hi > > >> > > >> Even though I understand that it is better to focus on > the charter > > > than > > >> in the name I too beleieve that TANA does not say much. > > >> > > >> I believe that somewhere along the track and also in the charter > the > > >> term "less than best effort transmission" was/is mentioned A > > >> possible name would then be > > >> > > >> LETBET (LEss Than Best Effort Transport) > > >> > > >> That said... there are a whole bunch of WG names out > there that at > > >> first glance does not say anything about the group. > > >> > > >> The charter looks OK from my perspective. > > >> > > >> /Ingemar > > >> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: tsv-area-bounces@ietf.org > > >>> [mailto:tsv-area-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ted Faber > > >>> Sent: den 21 oktober 2008 18:51 > > >>> To: Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-RCN0)[VZ] > > >>> Cc: TSV Area; tana@ietf.org; p2pi@ietf.org > > >>> Subject: Re: [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter > > >>> > > >>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 09:12:10AM -0500, Eddy, Wesley M. > > >>> (GRC-RCN0)[VZ] wrote: > > >>>> But if nobody else has a problem with the TANA name, > I'll keep my > > >>>> mouth shut so we don't waste time and energy. There are > > >>> bigger fish to fry! > > >>> > > >>> It should change. > > >>> > > >>> I care about congestion control and nothing in the expansion of > > >>> TANA indicated it was about congestion (to me). > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> Ted Faber > > >>> http://www.isi.edu/~faber PGP: > > >>> http://www.isi.edu/~faber/pubkeys.asc > > >>> Unexpected attachment on this mail? See > > >>> http://www.isi.edu/~faber/FAQ.html#SIG > > >>> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> p2pi mailing list > > >> p2pi@ietf.org > > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2pi > > > _______________________________________________ > > > tana mailing list > > > tana@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tana > > _______________________________________________ > tana mailing list > tana@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tana > _______________________________________________ p2pi mailing list p2pi@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2pi
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Stanislav Shalunov
- [p2pi] TANA proposed charter Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Lars Eggert
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Bruce Davie
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Joe Touch
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Joe Touch
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Salman Abdul Baset
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Lars Eggert
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Narayanan, Vidya
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-RCN0)[VZ]
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Murari Sridharan
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Ted Faber
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Ted Faber
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Caitlin Bestler
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Ted Faber
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Das, Saumitra
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] [tana] TANA proposed charter Das, Saumitra
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Rolf Winter
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Laird Popkin
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Rolf Winter
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Rolf Winter
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Kurt Tutschku
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter toby.moncaster
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Ingemar Johansson S
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Michael Menth
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Michael Welzl
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Roland Bless
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Roland Bless
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] TANA proposed charter Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] TANA proposed charter Laird Popkin
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] TANA proposed charter Enrico Marocco
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Rolf Winter
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] TANA proposed charter toby.moncaster
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter toby.moncaster
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter toby.moncaster
- Re: [p2pi] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Mark Allman
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Bryan Ford
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] TANA proposed charter Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Narayanan, Vidya
- [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet marking qu… John Leslie
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… John Leslie
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter Livingood, Jason
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… Laird Popkin
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] TANA proposed charter -- packet… Woundy, Richard
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… Stanislav Shalunov
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… Robb Topolski
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [p2pi] TANA proposed charter -- packet markin… Bruce Davie
- Re: [p2pi] [tana] [tsv-area] TANA proposed charter Robb Topolski